Is Dasavatharam Sinking?

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Sitting in the U.S. it’s hard to definitively say how Kamal Haasan’s crappy freakshow Dasavatharam is faring at the box office.

But news reports trickling in from India suggest that Dasavatharam is not doing well at the box office. If that is indeed the case, we would not be surprised because the movie is a pathetic fiasco from the so-called Ulaganayagan (Universal Hero).

Ha ha, if Kamal Haasan is Ulaganayagan, then we are Alexander the Great.

A report from Indiatimes (part of the Times of India group) says that the movie has not done well at the box office.

Here’s an excerpt from the IndiaTimes Report:

Yes, the hype, hoopla and the billions spent on it have not been able to save Kamal Haasan’s magnum opus Dasavatharam from sinking at the box office …. Dasavatharam has not been able to hold up interest levels over the weekend.

Times of India’s Indiatimes is not the only one Indian media outlet to comment on Dasavatharam’s poor performance at the box office.

Other credible Indian reports like DNA (Friday, June 20, 2008 23:59 IST) also make a similar point:

Kamal Haasan’s Dasavatharam may not have done too well as far as box-office collections are concerned.

118 Responses to "Is Dasavatharam Sinking?"

  1. gandhiji   June 24, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Some numbers from mojo.. don’t know how reliable these numbers are.

    http://boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2008&wk=24&p=.htm.
    Dasa had a spectacular opening because of the unprecendented number of prints released by the smart dasa guys who correctly predicted the collections to plummet in the second week.

    It vanished off the mojo charts next week.
    http://boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2008&wk=25&p=.htm
    It is not sinking.. it has completely sunk.

    I’ll use Sivaji for comparison because it set some standards for a “blockbuster” (and also because I am an unabashed Rajini fan)

    Sivaji stayed on the mojo charts for 5 weeks.. collected 323,754 on the 5th week.. http://boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2007&wk=27&p=.htm

    On the UK charts, Sivaji has beaten Dasa both week #1 and #2.
    http://boxofficemojo.com/intl/uk/?yr=2008&wk=25&p=.htm

    The staying power is what determines the success of a movie.. not the opening weekend collections.

  2. joeantony   June 25, 2008 at 12:56 am

    thats really interesting.. Dasa had only one success
    creating a hype even bigger than sivaji…
    as per those stats … the opening week collection is
    far too high than that of sivaji..

    but ultimately.. both sivaji and dasa had a great fear factor of loss / flop… thats the reason why they made huge no of prints to gain as much as possible before
    reviews / feedback of audieance spread across…

    thats surely lack of confidence and sometimes path to failure too…

  3. dilip   June 27, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    hi gandhiji you have injected a big comedy from two week ends dasa had collected 11mn$ were as sivaji collected only 3mn$

    dasa opening weekend collection $ 4,632,719
    sivaji openong weekend collection $1,324,861
    dasa collection after two week ends: $11,653,212
    sivaji collection after two week ends $3,705,252

    The difference between Dasavatharam and Shivaji during its first weekend is $ 3,307,858 The difference between Dasavatharam and Shivaji gross collection at the end of the second weekend is $ 7,947,960 so Dasa is far better than sivaji in all aspects .so difference between dasa and sivaji collection is nearly 8mn$ nearly 32cr rs.it is really amazing.
    kamal has not only shown he is great actor he has also shown he is a very big star too.this site has made lot of baloneys about rajnikanth saying he is star ,sun he is 100times multiplied by shahrukhkhan which has came to end.sivaji was only a moderate sucess it only grossed 100cr worldwide when it is expected to gross 300cr.that too it became moderate hit only because of huge hype created by national english news channels like cnnibn ,timesnow ,ndtv,headlinestoday.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2008&wk=24&p=.htm
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2008&wk=25&p=.htm
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2007&wk=24&p=.htm
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2007&wk=25&p=.htm

    dasa is definitely not sinking it may be sinking in your bathroom tub.malaysian box office reported that dasavatharam has debuted at no2 behind hulk and at secondweekend it became no1 beating incredible hulk.
    in uk boxoffice it debuted at no11 bcz it was relesed in very less theatres.
    in us it was released in 50screens with 42 prints collecting 5mn$(5lakh us$) making it at no8 in us boxoffice at opening weekend.
    overall taking worldwide boxoffice it debuted at no7 pushing back some hollywood movies great isnit.
    rajni needs remakes,shriyas glamour,avm banner. rehman, punch dialogues, huge hype creation from media to give hit but genius kaml haasan does not need anything to deliver a blockbuster.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    You write above: genius kaml haasan does not need anything to deliver a blockbuster

    Truly, a gem of a sentence!

  4. dilip   June 29, 2008 at 7:05 am

    fool itmeans that kamal donot need remakes or heroine glamour or any external factors like hype creation by media to deliver a blockbuster.y said some said das is sinking in inoudia which fool said may be your friends who are like you may say that movie is not doing weel as far as india is concerned dasa is givin 90% collections in weekdays and in weekends the collections are 100%.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    Have you heard of the following – logic, spelling, punctuation & grammar?

  5. gandhiji   June 29, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    well, as I suspected, it looks like boxofficemojo (BOM) is very unreliable for tamil movies. it had no record for dasa when I checked.. suddenly it appeared with ridiculously inflated numbers.. It made 1.7 mil. in UK and Malaysia for the first 2 weeks (both less than Sivaji).. so there is no way in hell it could have made 10 mil. from the rest of the countries in 2 weeks.

    There are no record for either Dasa or Sivaji for the Indian Box Office on BMO.. So BMO is clearly not a good source for tamil movies.

    Behindwoods.com states that Dasa is wobbling in the international market.. so do Indiatimes and DNA. Sify reports that collection is down to 80% in single screen theaters in Chennai.. in just the second week.. AssCar will get his money back, but Kamal’s reputation is damaged more.

  6. ramesh2008   June 30, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Gandhiji
    You are a Sic man. Even Rajini is exicted about kamal and Dasa and how does it matter when the producer is laughing away to his bank??

    check this authentic write up in economic times
    may be then you will feel the need of a Psycatric sitting to get back to reality.

    One thing is true you wrote about sitting in the US and trying to read Indian collections of DASA. Poor you, I pray you become well soon!

    Check this link
    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3173741.cms

  7. gandhiji   June 30, 2008 at 8:17 am

    ramesh, yeah, i guess i am biased against kamal (I am an unabashed rajini fan, remember? Well, I would want to say that Rajini is a great man and wishes the best for his main rival.. but i find it hard to believe that he would really want it to be a bigger success than sivaji. To be fair to men, that article doesn’t really give actual numbers or tell us if it is doing well after a spectacular opening.

    I am a fan of Kamal’s acting too (just not a fan of Kamal, the arrogant [trash talk]).. i think he has given some oscar-worthy performances. if he were in hollywood, he would have got some nominations at least.

    But when you claim to be India’s most ambitious film, I expect some quality.. it is embarrassing (I am sincere, when I say this.. not just as a Rajini fan) to showcase this as India’s most ambitious film. We are fed to really high quality television on a daily basis.. Dasa falls way short of that in many departments. Very disappointing.

    I certainly hope that Kamal is only boasting to market the film.. and not deluded enough to think that this movie is world-class. He has wasted a lot of effort, producer’s money and public’s money in this awful ambition..

  8. dilip   June 30, 2008 at 9:22 am

    Ya gandhiji is a sick like reviewer. dasavtaharam is ruling the boxoffice in india. reports say that in india it has been relesed around 600 screens in four states of south india tn,ap,ka,kl in two languages tamil and telegu. the collections are around 80to90% in weekdays and 100% in weekends.

    Leaving apart india it is expected to groos $15mn from global markets like uk usa amd malaysia.on the frist week end it grossed $4.6mn and after two weekends gross todate is $11mn.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2008&wk=24&p=.htm
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2008&wk=25&p=.htm

    At first gandhiji quoted this as reliable source but suddenly now saying it is not reliable.

  9. dilip   July 1, 2008 at 12:20 am

    gandhiji you wrote”i think he has given some oscar-worthy performances. if he were in hollywood, he would have got some nominations at least”.it is a gem of a sentence.thats why i say him the best in business of acting in the world.

  10. dilip   July 1, 2008 at 5:26 am

    hi gandhiji and reviewer this is a proper third party source learly saying dasaavatharam has grossed whooping 11.19 mn $ from the international market excluding usa.so ewho the hell said dasaavtharam was sinking was just a crap like the reviewer.atleast $8mn more than sivaji.so no way dasavatharam is not sinking. the ship had already reachhe dthe destination called sucess.

    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jun-08-04/dasavatharam-sivaji-30-06-08.html

    you wrote”Sitting in the U.S. it’s hard to definitively say how Kamal Haasan’s crappy freakshow Dasavatharam is faring at the box office”it is very easy for you to say about the boxoffice results for movie relesing in india. the movie you like you will write review as your wish and say that movie is a blockbuster.
    movie you dont like you like review for that movie like a crap and say that movie is a flop as you said for billa and now for dasavtharam.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    1. You write above: the movie you like you will write review as your wish and say that movie is a blockbuster.

    You dodo, give us one example of where we’ve done that.

    2. You write: movie you dont like you like review for that movie like a crap and say that movie is a flop as you said for billa

    Is there not one thinking cell in that hard lump you call your head.

    Maybe, you ought to read our post Ajith’s Billa – Flop, Ultimate Flop or Super Hit? one more time. Here’s an excerpt from that post:

    Besides Ajith’s ham-handed attempts at acting, the new Billa also suffers from a poor screenplay and has the ugly feel of a rush job not a slick job.

    Hey, notwithstanding all its weaknesses Ajith’s Billa may even turn out to be a super hit. Who knows.

  11. gandhiji   July 1, 2008 at 7:25 am

    yo Dilip, “don’t know how reliable these numbers are.” doesn’t mean “reliable”.

    BOM INTL numbers don’t seem to be accurate.
    Sivaji got 2 mil. from UK & Malaysia alone.. Dasa got 1.7 from those 2 countries which seem to have reliable box office numbers for tamil movies. If we extrapolate, the rest of the world numbers should be almost equal.. because we know how big a success Sivaji was. So I think either Dasa’s numbers are inflated (foul play by AssCar team?) or Sivaji’s numbers were drawn from insufficient sources. The disparity cannot be nearly 8 million.. that’s ridiculous.

    Regarding Chennai box office: Both Sify and behindwoods have downgraded it to a hit from superhit.. It couldn’t even withstand a SundarC movie.. Imagine what will happen when Kuselan arrives.

    There won’t be as many repeat viewers as there were for Sivaji.. on top of pissing off sane movie-goers, he has pissed off some hindu fanatics too.. too bad. So it won’t be a blockbuster, buster.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    We remain skeptical of the $8 million difference.

  12. dilip   July 1, 2008 at 9:00 am

    Gandhiji it clearly shows you are hardcore rajni fan. Dasa was a huge hit compared to Sivaji. The movie released in more theatres in Tamil Nadu than Sivaji.

    go and see chennai boxoffice in sify it is at no1. In behindwood it is no1. just two weeks it garnered around 5cr in chennai alone. In world boxoffice excluding usa it made 11.9mn$.

    Reviewer will remain always skeptical even if thousands of proper sources are given.

    Moreover sivaji was a loss fro distributors. In Madurai dasavatharam released in 12 screens compared to sivaji
    released in 10 screens.repeat audience for dasa is also amazing. see this link

    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jun-08-04/dasavatharam-sivaji-30-06-08.html

    it clearly says about the repeat audience.

  13. dilip   July 1, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    this link clearly shows that how big blockbuster vetaiyaadu vilaiyadu is.it made distribuotr share of 30cr .it grossed 45cr.u accept now.
    what do you mean by saying vv a dud.so it shows oyu are acrpa and if you dont like a movie youwrite review as you wish and say that movie a total dud at the boxoffice.hence the proof.

    http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14359602&cid=2363

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    One of the links provided by you – Moviebuzz – claims that At the box-office it was Vetayadu Vilayadu which was the biggest grosser as it made Rs 30 Crore worldwide for its distributors.

    Where do they get their stats from…not clear.

  14. dilip   July 1, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    so vv is not a dud it was a boxoffice blockbuster and dasavatharam was even a bigger blockbuster .In india it is running in all the 600 odd screens it released with 80 to 90%collections in weekdays and 100% collections in weekends.

  15. ramesh2008   July 1, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Gandhi
    First of all, I am a great fan of filims and equally love Rajni and Kamal flicks. I did not write to take sides and I am not sick. The point I was trying to make you see reason was that both Rajni and kamal have been able to make a mark over the biased Bollywood stars! It is a moment of pride for Tamil cinema. Don’t be a cribber and learn to appreciate things! Let’s be clear any body other than Rajni in shivaji will be crap and so is Dasa without kamal! It is effort and entertainment that matters so don’t be a moron and be realistic friend. Tamil cinema needs both Rajani and Kamal and that is the point. Please clean your mind-set and don’t be childish.

  16. gandhiji   July 2, 2008 at 7:37 am

    ramesu, what pisses me off is when kamal claims that dasa is world-class.. it is embarrassing. I bet that it wouldn’t sustain the interest level once Kuselan hits town.. In addition to Rajini, it has black kamal in it.. and has a meaty story-line.. hope Pee Vasu hasn’t screwed it up.

    you ought to wash your mind-set too.. playing petty bollywood-kollywood politics. they are all indian movies, you know!

    Dilip, you claim “sivaji was a loss for distributors”.. do you have any news item which says that.. I do agree that VV was a hit.. But I wasn’t much impressed by it.. it was like an unduly stretched average Law & Order episode. I have seen some episodes which were better made than this movie.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    Yes, Dilip… Please provide us a legitimate source for your claim that “sivaji was a loss for distributors”.

  17. gandhiji   July 2, 2008 at 9:12 am

    ha searchindia, i did a search on VV and law and order to see who all felt that way.. i was surprised that i landed on your dasa review page. I realized that after all, i haven’t read all the posts on that page.. Another fella also has felt the same way.. it was my immediate reaction after watching the movie.. Atleast Gautam is trying something new.. hopefully people will start

    “Akku” is supposed to be a taut thriller as per Sify.. did you get a chance to watch it?

    I have sunTV at home.. The serials are beyond appalling.. no wonder some people are so impressed by VV and Dasa.. Dilip&Ramesu, in the US, the situation is almost reverse .. many serials are better than most movies.

    http://www.thehindu.com/2008/01/06/stories/2008010655971100.htm provides lots of hope for future technical brilliance in Indian movies.. Kamal could have used animation to take away the fakeness in his masks.. but I guess his ego stopped him from doing that.. or he is just plain ignorant.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    1. We had Sun TV for a few months but in the interest of retaining what little is left of our sanity (after watching all those Kollywood & Bollywood films), we cancelled Sun and added the HBO/Starz/Showtime/DVR package.

    2. No, we haven’t watched Akku…we’ll see if we can get it.

    3. We looked at the Hindu link provide above on special effects. Our thinking is that the special effects capabilities of Indian firms are way, way behind the U.S.

  18. arnold   July 3, 2008 at 11:21 am

    Sify had now announced Dasavatharam as Super Hit 🙂

    http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14706598&cid=13525926

    Msn has also announced Dasavatharam as Super Hit
    http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinema/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1530171

    BehindWoods has announced that Dasavatharam BEATS Sivaji in terms of Box Office Collection 🙂 🙂 🙂
    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jun-08-04/dasavatharam-sivaji-30-06-08.html

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    Sorry for the late-processing of your comment. For some reason it went into the spam folder.

  19. ramesh2008   July 3, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    Dear Gandhi,
    God save your degenerated thought process. My assesment that you are sic is justified and and the added fact is you have “selective amineshia(Hope i have spelt it right) besides signs of dementia or forgetfulness!
    I have decided no to put any more sense into your scrap mind!. By the way, I was previliged to See a special screening of “Kuselan” as I am close to the production house! it is a nice story and taken well and it is no shivaji in termse of size. Raji acts and looks very young.The songs are crapy and average. You dont have to gaurantee its success to me! I liked it and am sure it will hit Bulls eye. Last but not the least, please you need medical help and take it

  20. gandhiji   July 4, 2008 at 9:59 am

    oh come on, ramesh.. if i need medical help, dilip needs it too.. he claims sivaji was a loss. we are just polarized fans.(not polar fans). I would anyday watch Sivaji over Dasa — Sivaji had so many sizzling movies for a Rajini fan (motta boss, his impressions of mgr, sivaji and kamal, all the style.. wow!).. but I would watch Thevar Magan over Annamalai.. so I am saner than he is.

    yeah, listened to the kuselan songs.. below average.. looks like gv prakash has exhausted all his good tunes already. maybe he needs medical help too.

  21. mallukuttan   July 5, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Hello,

    I just saw somebody mentioning about “Kuselan”. I am not a Kamal fan, still like him. But Rajni is known for is overacting, and did he ever do roles like Kamal did in “Anbe Sivam”? Isn’t he overacting – to be sincere? Dasa’s story was not good, but Kamal was good, i thought!

    Now when I saw Chandramukhi, it was, the worst moment in my life! Manichitrathazhu was a critically acclaimed and realistic potrayal, while Chandramukhi had a lot of Rajni Craps. For eg: In Manichitrathazhu, Mohanlal was really tensed about curing his friends wife, and Bullshit, in chandramukhi, Rajni did it eaaaaaaaasily, and not only that, the head chopping scene was shocker to me. Also Rajni enters with his ‘typical’ style, and he walked with a smile while the Rowdys where floating, why you are making masterpiece into a disaster – please tell sir!

    Now Kuselan – It’s a remake of Kathaparayumbol, in which Sreenivasan was a simple barber, and there is only one song in the movie, and that too matching to a situation – Sung by the inmates of that Village praising the “Barber” for flattering him and get a golden moment with his old friend who’s now Superstar. A very nice movie. Now SUPER STAR RK is doing the role of this Barber, and the stills show me R.K. in full swing with Nayanthara – With shining robes and makeup – what the hell? And after he knew about DASA, he decided to double the roles, and now 20 roles? Oh my god, why are you spoiling GOOD FILMS? Can’t you make your own CRAP Story like Kamal made for Dasa? I like Kamal just because he doesn’t mercilessly turn a Good movie into a disaster – He had his own story, though. Look at Amitabh bachcan. He does the roles that fits to his age, now still R.K. flirting with Grand daughters? I think his next movie will be Harry Potter in which he will be doing HArry potter’s role, and i expect him to act in some good hollywood movie’s remake, and I am sure, the next day American’s will Bomb out Tamilnadu.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    Let’s see how Kuselan turns out. The wait shouldn’t be long.

  22. dilip   July 6, 2008 at 4:43 am

    only rajni fans who are mentals need a medical attention ramesh. sivaji was a definite loss for distributors but not for producers. this site is definitley not neutral they are indeed hardcore fans of rajnikanth who made lot of baloneys about rajnikath saying he is 100 times to shahrukh his charisam is like sunrays he is a star etc etc like that. for sivaji there was a huge hype creation by media and after all it grossed only 100cr. das already crossed 100cr mark. boxoffice reports show that das has grossed 15mn$ excluding usa from world wide box office.
    this will be the review for the kuselan. they will abuse ntara with all the bullshit words in the dictionary.i f movie is as they expected they will say pasupathy has done a great job which lot of heroes in kollywood are not able to do. if movie is not as they expected they say
    one of the few saving graces to the movie is fine performance by pasupathy.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    Cut the baloney and answer the question posed to you by us and others – Give us a credible source for your repeated claim that Sivaji caused a loss to distributors.

  23. puratchikaran2   July 6, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    Who is the bloody idiot said that Dasa is sinking? He/she would have deffinitely escaped from a mental hospital i believe… Because even a blind could hear the feed back from the huge crowd.. or even a deaf and dum could readout from boxoffice records..

    Dasavathaaram facts- Outplayed chandramuki and sivaji @ box office in the opening week itself. COllected Rs.100 Crores in 10 days and now crossed Rs.160 crores with increasing demand and great response… people at chennai are standing in ques in front of theates from morning 7 am in sat/sundays for special shows eEVEN IN 4TH WEEK…

    HEY MAN, ARE U SICK? BETTER DONT SLEEP… JUST WAKE UP & SEE WHATS HAPPENING..

    U KNOW ONETHING? U LIKE IT OR NOT..

    DASAVATHAARAM IS NOW THE HIGHEST GROSSED INDIAN MOVIE SURPASSING OSO AND SHOLAY-(AS PER CURRENT INFLATION) HAVING COLLECTED MORETHAN 160 CRORES IN 3 WEEKS…

    PLS CHECK OUT AND REPLY

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    1. You blithering idiot, use lower case in your comment. Makes it easy for others to read your crap.

    2. Provide credible sources with links for your tall claims about Dasavatharam being a mega-hit. Otherwise, you won’t be taken seriously.

    Until we see credible evidence, we’ll reserve judgment on Dasavatharam’s box office status.

    3. When we wrote the above post Is Dasavatharam Sinking?, we cited a report from Indiatimes (part of the Times of India group).

  24. dilip   July 8, 2008 at 9:38 am

    you wrote”Give us a credible source “what a comedy is there anyhing called credible source in the world for you.you said vv is a dud i have given a credible third party source to prove you are wrong.yo said dasavathram is sinking what a comedy.all of them in this blog has given credible sources to show that it is not sinking.are you ready to beleive those credible sources.
    you said billa is flop i have given many third party reliable sources to prove you are wrong.you said vv is a dud i have proved that it has got a distributor share of 30 cr worldwide.but you are not ready to beleive those.you like a fool questioned how they got that staistics.then what more you need do you need distributors and producers to come and sit near you and give the collection statistics of a movie.now see das has grossed 6.35 cr from cnai alone.

    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-slide-shows/movie-2/top-ten-movies/tamil-cinema-topten-movie-dasavatharam.html
    http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinema/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1530171

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    Do NOT try to evade the issue. Several readers (including yours truly) have asked you to provide a credible source for your repeated claims that Sivaji caused a loss to distributors.

    Yet you have failed to do so.

  25. dilip   July 8, 2008 at 9:45 am

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2008&wk=26&p=.htm

    this clearly shows that dasa is not sinking.and the difference between sivaji and dasa is not 8mn$ now it has shot up to 11mn$ now.so some craps like reviewer and gandhiji who said movie is sinking definitely needs some medical attention.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    We posed a question – Is Dasavatharam Sinking?…that’s not the same as a declarative sentence.

    Several readers (including yours truly) have asked you to provide a credible source for your repeated claims that Sivaji caused a loss to distributors. You have not responded….were you talking through your hat?

  26. dilip   July 8, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    ok i will give details about sivaji is a loss to distributors.tamildaily dinakaran,tamilmurasu have given news about that. but you said vv is a dud.after all the credible sources do you accept that movies like billa, dasavathram, vettaiyyadu vilaiyaadu are blockbusters.
    dasavathram collections have crossed 150cr (14mn$( about 60cr rs) from worldwide collection). sivaji collected only 100cr.definitely das collection is much more than sivaji.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    You write above: i will give details about sivaji is a loss to distributors. tamil daily dinakaran, tamilmurasu have given news about that

    We are waiting for the specifics.

  27. gandhiji   July 8, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    dull-ip, i admit that dasa is a blockbuster – collection-wise.. many gullible people are getting swindled.

    but kamal admitted that dasa is crap.

    so both you and me can be happy.

    http://www.maalaimalar.com/asp/news/dis_news_article.asp?artid=211020 says Sivaji collected 95 crores in 3 weeks.. so broke even in 3 weeks for distributors. Not that I trust maalaimalar.. I don’t trust dinakaran either.. we need to go with how long the movie ran.. Sivaji’s record – 100 days in 105 theaters. Dasa won’t match it. Kuselan might.

    இந்தியாவில் மட்டும் 650 தியேட்டர்களில் திரையிடப்பட்ட ‘சிவாஜி’ அனைத்து தியேட்டர்களிலும் ஹவுஸ்புல் காட்சிகளாக ஓடிக்கொண்டிருக்கிறது.

    தமிழ்நாடு மட்டுமில்லாது ஆந்திரா, கேரளா, கர்நாடகா, மகாராஷ்டிரா ஆகிய மாநிலங்களிலும் இப்படம் வசூல் சாதனை செய்துள்ளது. ‘சிவாஜி’ படம் மகராஷ்டிராவில் 18 தியேட்டர்களில் நேரடி தமிழ்ப்படமாகவே திரையிடப்பட்டது.

    தற்போது இந்தியில் ‘ஜூம் பராபர் ஜூம்’ என்ற படம் வெற்றிகரமாக ஓடிக்கொண்டிருக்கும் நிலையிலும் நேரடி தமிழ்ப்படமாக திரையிடப்பட்ட சிவாஜிக்கு இப்போதும் இருக்கும் வரவேற்பை பார்த்து வினியோகஸ்தர்களே வியப்படைந்துள்ளனர்.

    மேலும் பல மாநிலங்களில் சிவாஜியின் வசூல் வேட்டை தொடர்வதால் புதிய படங்களை திரையிட வினியோகஸ்தர்கள் தயக்கம் காட்டி வருகின்றனர். இப்படம் ஆந்திராவில் மட்டும் ரூ.18 கோடி வசூல் செய்துள்ளது.

    இந்தியாவில் மட்டுல்லாது வெளிநாடுகளிலும் ‘சிவாஜி’ படம் வசூலை குவித்துள்ளது. அமெரிக்காவில் ரூ.4.5 கோடி, இங்கிலாந்தில் ரூ.2.75 கோடி, மலேசியாவில் ரூ.7.8 கோடி என வசூலை அள்ளியது ‘சிவாஜி’ படம். சிங்கப்பூரில் எந்தவொரு தமிழ்ப்படமும் இதுவரை காணாத வசூலை கண்டுள்ளது எனவும் அங்கிருந்து வரும் தகவல்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றன.

    உலகமெங்கும் திரையிடப்பட்ட ‘சிவாஜி’ படம் 3 வாரங்களில் மட்டும் ரூ.95 கோடியை வசூலித்துள்ளது என கூறப்படுகிறது.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    1. Pl post content only in English (we will not process non-English comments in future except for occasional Tamil words written in English with English equivalent provided in brackets).
    Makes it impossible for non-Tamil makkal (people) to follow.

    2. Your Link (provided by you above for maalaimalar) is not working.

  28. gandhiji   July 8, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    sorry dude or dudette, just wanted to prove a point that media (that too tamil newspapers) reports about tamil movie boxoffice collections cannot be trusted!

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    Wish we had objective, third party box office sources for Kollywood movies.

  29. gandhiji   July 8, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    http://www.tamilnaduentertainment.com/foraystat.asp claims to be “the unique trade magazine for the cine industry is a monthly issue circulated for the benefit of the industry” and it declares that Sivaji was a profit for distributors..

    those distributors are scumbags, they were probably trying to eke some money out of rajini (he compensated them for Baba’s losses).. the movie ran for over 100 days in 100 theaters.. how could it be a loss.. the media will sensationalize it.

  30. dilip   July 9, 2008 at 3:55 am

    hi gandhiji see this sivaji has grossed 95cr in three weeks. dasa has crossed 100cr in less than three weeks.
    sivaji was an average hit only because of huge hype creation by media. it ran 100 days in 100 theatres no definitley not. it ran 100 dys only in chennai not in any other cities in tamilnadu.

    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/july-08-02/dasavatharam-08-07-08.html

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    1. The media hype for Dasavatharam was no less.

    2. Where are the sources for your oft-repeated claim that Sivaji caused loss to distributors

  31. gandhiji   July 9, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Dilip
    Unlike the BS box office reports, the number of days cannot be faked:

    http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/telugu/article/33720.html
    http://in.news.yahoo.com/indiabroadcast/20070922/r_t_ibn_en/ten-sivaji-touches-the-magic-mark-comple-0ce06e0_1.html
    http://us.rediff.com/movies/2007/sep/21sivaji.htm

    and more if you search for http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sivaji+%22100+days+in%22

    Dasa won’t match it.. Kamal himself has admitted that it is crap.

  32. dilip   July 9, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    you wrote”The media hype for Dasavatharam was no less” No, definitely not. media hype for dasa was very less
    all the english channels like ndtv, cnnibn, timesnow were always giving news only about sivjai. sivaji is loss to distributors. this news is given by tamilmurasu and dinakran newspaper. i am afraid that i cannot give the source because it is in tamil and i am also not sure whether news given by that newspapers are true.

    but credible sources givne by gandhiji and other shows that dasa has grossed more than sivaji.gandhiji no of days is not important only the gross is important .rajni fans will finnce the exhibitors to makea movie run for 100days.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    You write above: sivaji is loss to distributors. this news is given by tamilmurasu and dinakran newspaper. i am afraid that i cannot give the source because it is in tamil and i am also not sure whether news given by that newspapers are true.

    Wow, You are not sure of the credibility of your own source above. Yet you repeatedly claim that Sivaji is a loss to distributors based on that very doubtful source.

    What did you drink as a child. Surely, not Horlicks.

  33. dilip   July 9, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    gandhiji sources givne by you clearly shows that sivaji released in 232 thetre in tamilnadu and in 800 thetres world wide. das has relesed in 250 thetres in tamilnadu and 250 in andhra, 85 in kerela,100 in karnataka and around 25 in north india.totally 710 screens in india itself.50 screens in usa nad 75 screens in rest of world.so atlest 30 more than sivaji. ok it relesed in many thetre and also it is a much bigger hit than sivaji with less hype created by media.

    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/july-08-02/dasavatharam-08-07-08.html
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2008&wk=26&p=.htm

  34. gandhiji   July 9, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    mandu dilip, do you have the breakdown of collections — behindwoods seems to rely on the numbers from boxofficemojo.. so they are essentially the same.

    lets take UK
    1) Dasa is out of the UK charts after week 3.
    2) Sivaji collected more on week 4 than Dasa collected on week 3. And it was on the charts for 6 weeks.
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/uk/?yr=2007&wk=27&p=.htm
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/uk/?yr=2008&wk=26&p=.htm

    lets take Malaysia:
    Sivaji had collected more money from 4 weeks from less number of theaters. Mandu, the number of theaters is not important. number of viewers is.

    lets take India, Singapore, Australia or any country with big indian presence:
    We have no data.

    Do you have stats from any other country on Boxofficemojo? No..(not even India) I think the overseas total comparison between Dasa and Sivaji is bogus. Either the Dasa numbers are manipulated by AssCar team or Sivaji’s numbers are drawn from insufficient sources — the numbers should be similar for both movies.. actually it could be better for Sivaji if we extrapolate the data from UK and Malaysia.

    MORE MONEY FROM LESS NUMBER OF THEATERS! Anyway, Kuselan is going to kill Dasa.

    I speed-watched a P.o.S called Kaalai – Dasavatharam is a classicc if Kaalai is considered a movie. There is your warning, searchindia- I have sacrificed myself for your sake. You probably can skip watching/reviewing that.

    Dilip, if you rank the Kamal movies, at what number would you rank Dasavatharam in terms of watchability? Probably #20?

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    You write above: speed-watched a P.o.S called Kaalai – Dasavatharam is a classicc if Kaalai is considered a movie. There is your warning, searchindia – I have sacrificed myself for your sake. You probably can skip watching/reviewing that.

    Thanks.

    Simbhu is bad. No question.

    But when you consider the kid’s age, you tend to feel that there is a possibility (remote??) that he could improve. The kid handled Vallavan when he was 23.

  35. gandhiji   July 14, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    looks like Dilip has given up.

    Chennai BO.. dasa seems to have started losing steam as expected..
    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-slide-shows/movie-2/top-ten-movies/tamil-cinema-topten-movie-dasavatharam.html
    Dasa had 63% occupancy in the 5th weekend.

    http://www.naachgaana.com/2007/07/23/chennai-box-office-battle-sivaji-or-kireedom/
    Sivaji had 78% occupancy in the 6th weekend. Collections marginally less than Dasa because of the exorbitant ticket prices(swindling b*s#*&ds) this year.

    Sivaji’s collection record will remain intact. Kuselan may not break it. Dasa is a blockbuster.. collection-wise. not as big as Sivaji though. Kudos Kamal .. you tricked a lot of people with your 10-role gimmick!

    Simbhu has a Kamal complex.. thinks too much of himself. I did like his Manmadhan too.. despite his overaction. Watched it with very low expectations.. it helped. I love that song “Kadhal Valarthaen” from that movie.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    No, no. Dilip is a tough cookie. He doesn’t give up easily…he has that never say die attitude.

    Yes, it does seem like Dasavatharam may have recovered its investment and may even have made some money.

    After Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na and Love Story 2050, we haven’t seen any Indian movies…although we watched two French movies in NYC Tell No One and Roman De Gare, and one Italian movie Cinema Paradiso on DVD (Very good – available at Blockbuster & Netflix).

    We are waiting to see The Dark Knight, the new Batman movie releasing Thursday night in the U.S.

  36. gandhiji   July 14, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    His pal boxofficemojo didn’t include Dasa in the last week’s edition.. probably realized their folly that there were being tricked into publishing ludicrous numbers. And so behindwoods and numerous other kamal fanatic blogs didn’t cut and paste the numbers from
    http://boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2008&wk=27&p=.htm

    The Dark Knight trailer is very interesting. Looks like “The Joker” may dominate the movie. He may be better than the Jack Nicholson edition. Poor Heath Ledger.. He banged Jake in Brokeback Mountain and tried to bang Jake’s sister Maggie here and finally all the Gyllenhal banging took its toll.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    1. Even if Dasavatharam makes a gazillion $$$, we’d still consider it a mediocre movie.

    2. Probably the drugs took their toll on Heath Ledger.

    3. We liked Ang Lee’s Brokeback Mountain a lot. His Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was great, of course. Lee’s recent movie Lust, Caution was not in the same league.

  37. gandhiji   July 14, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Liked both those aforementioned Ang Lee movies..\

    Liked
    The Ice Storm (1997)
    Sense and Sensibility (1995)
    too

    Wanted to watch Wei Tang in Lust, Caution for the you-know-what reason. Haven’t gotten to it. “A skinstant classic!” according to MrSkin. Watched the highlights already.. but wanted to watch the whole movie too.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    Tony Leung Chiu-Wai, who plays the male lead in Lust Caution, is an excellent actor. We liked him in Lust Caution and even more so in Wong Kar-wai’s fine movie In the Mood for Love (Netflix). Wei Tang is a good actress too.

    By the way, our own Anupam Kher has a small role in Lust Caution though his name is missing in the title credits.

  38. chrish   July 16, 2008 at 12:15 am

    Distributors say they lost heavily in Sivaji but recovered due to Dasa: [Links to images of Tamil publications]

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    Please provide links to English publications so that everyone can read them.

  39. gandhiji   July 16, 2008 at 9:09 am

    One estimate says, Sivaji grossed 350 Crores http://businesstoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1219&issueid=34
    I’d think business today will be more sincere than Nakheeeran with too many Es. Gopalu has proved to be anti-rajini earlier too.

    One thing is for sure, Sivaji ran stronger than Dasa in Chennai according to the CBO, & UK and Malaysia according to Boxofficemojo. Boxofficemojo has stopped publishing INTL Dasa numbers since last week.. so something fishy there about the numbers from previous weeks.
    We have proof that Sivaji was amazing for the following distributors:
    Chennai: (recovered in 5 weeks)
    http://entertainment.oneindia.in/tamil/exclusive/shivaji-chennai-city-180707.html
    Ayngaran (overseas distribution): Made 25 million dollars out of 2.5 million investment
    http://www.investegate.co.uk/Article.aspx?id=200806250830044710X
    So that compensates for whatever frivolous claims an unscrupulous distributor in some pattithotti has..

    I am pretty sure that it was profitable in other south indian states too.. AP etc.. I can dig up reports for them too. I have no idea why I am doing this.. but I am obsessed.

    Was successful in NJ (yo searchindia, what is your perception.. how did Dasa fare against Sivaji in NJ.. I’d think it was almost equal)
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=UURIUqGWWvs&feature=related
    Dasa was removed after 4 weeks, but not sure how long Sivaji ran for.

    Sivaji ran for 100 days in Canada and UK.. Dasa has no chance to match that.

    Rajini has a much bigger fan-base (and Sivaji gave more to Rajini fans than what Dasa gave to Kamal fans)..

    sorry, KFA!

    Behindwoods doesn’t seem to keep an archive of the previous weeks’ reports.

    I’ll post the CBO numbers so that we can track the decline of Dasa every week and celebrate:
    From http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-slide-shows/movie-2/top-ten-movies/tamil-cinema-topten-movie-dasavatharam.html
    No. Weeks Completed: 4
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 246
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 65 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.51,77,425
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the fifth weekend: Rs.7.53 Crore

    Sivaji:
    N.O. Weeks Completed: 4.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over the last week: 700.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over the last week: 72 %.
    Collection over the last week in Chennai: Rs.1.25 crores.
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the fourth weekend: Rs.7.01 crores.

    Dasa collection after 4 weeks was 51 lakhs, Sivaji was 1.25 crores. Dasa will fall behind Sivaji after 5 weeks (It was ahead for 4 weeks because of the higher number of shows and higher ticket prices).. If the production cost was really 130 crores(http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinema/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1360556) as some reports suggest, Dasa will be a box office disaster.. but profitable if the cost was 60 crores as some other reports suggest.
    I’d say Chennai, UK and Malaysia will be the trend that the rest of the world will also be following. SIVAJI WAS MUCH BIGGER THAN DASAVATHARAM!

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    1. There was a frenzy and excitement for Sivaji at the movie hall in New Jersey that we never witnessed for Dasavatharam.

    Sivaji ran for only 15 days in NJ because it was released in Cineplaza, North Bergen, which closed on June 30, 2007 (recently reopened under a different name Phoenix Theatres Columbia Park Stadium 12). But Sivaji also ran here and there in North East – in Queens (NY), Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland and maybe one or two other places.

    2. The Dasavatharam folks may have done a better job in terms of releasing the movie in more theatres. In NJ alone, Dasavatharam was released in three different areas – Movie City (Edison), Newark Screens (Newark) and Multiplex Cinemas (East Windsor). Plus Virgina, CT, Boston and Pittsburgh. When a movie is released in more places, viewership may increase because resistance to a long drive comes down.

    3. The EQ (Entertainment Quotient) was higher for Sivaji than for Dasavatharam but overall we didn’t think much of Sivaji either.

    4. If we remember correctly, the online interest for Sivaji was much higher (based on our traffic, keyword searches et al) than for Dasavatharam.

  40. gandhiji   July 16, 2008 at 10:40 am

    I know you didn’t think much of Sivaji. I never liked any of Shankar’s movies… except Anniyan(and of course, Sivaji). He thrusts his messages in the most unsubtle way on the audience. Anniyan was probably saved by Vikram, easily the best lead act in a Shankar movie (beats out the fat/old Kamal in Indian).
    But Rajini’s electricity was astounding in Sivaji.. a non-Rajini fan may not appreciate it. All the critics who dissed Dasa were unanimous in praising Rajini’s charisma. I had written off all positive reviews as hype until I watched the movie. It is magical that Rajini was able to captivate so many people in such a crappy story.

    Shankar gave the Rajini fans to a lot cheer about.

    You were probably disappointed about spending 25$. I paid 11$(finally fell for the hype, but it was worth it) after 3 weeks in Atlanta.. so that wasn’t bad. Going in very low expectation also helped.

    The Motta Boss introduction is one of the most exhilarating scenes Rajini has ever done. My 3 year old son watches the Motta Boss scene with the same passion with which he watches Spiderman. Rajini fans would have revisited the theaters just to see that.. And there are plenty more sizzling scenes in Sivaji. There are no such scenes in Dasa.

    You had mentioned that Suman had done well.. but I think the real screen stealer in Suman’s scenes was AR Rehman’s background score.. it was terrific. Without AR Rehman, Sivaji wouldn’t have been that big. Shreya was another big reason(she has two big reasons).

    Unfortunately(for Kamal and his fans) on top of Kamal’s crappy screenplay and ugly masks, his supporting cast also let him down.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    1. We probably went in with very high expectations given that we’d seen and greatly enjoyed Anniyan (from Shankar). Plus, of course the enormous hype.
    2. Yes, Vikram was very good in Anniyan (reminded us of the book Sybil by Flora Rita Schreiber) but his last movie Bheema was a travesty. Recently, a regular reader of the SearchIndia.com blog posted this interesting comment after watching Bheema: However the film did have one big highlight. The death of both Vikram and Trisha. I just wished it had happened sooner (in Trisha’s case at least)
    3. Sivaji is a gazillion times better (we actually mean slicker) compared to the routine trash shoveled out by Kollywood.
    4. The Cineplaza theatre in North Bergen (now under Anil Ambani’s AdLabs, we think) is a piece of shit rivaled only by the equaly bad Movie City (Edison, NJ also now owned by AdLabs???). Some 15 or 20 minutes after Sivaji started, they stopped the screening and asked the audience to move to a different hall because of sound system issues. Perhaps that also sub-consciously influenced our perception of Sivaji.

  41. gandhiji   July 16, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    Thanks for the Sybil tip. I am not much of a reader (all I read is box office reports!)

    Did some searches and landed on
    http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0075296/awards.
    Have you seen the movie? Looks like the movie has a big cult following.

    Sally Field would have done really well from what I have seen on youtube. She has 16avatharam in this movie.. Kamal could have probably taken up this story to flaunt his acting skills.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    No, we haven’t seen the movie Sybil but we’ve read the book. Just added it to our Netflix queue.

    A lot of readers complain that we are anti-Bollywood or anti-Kollywood. But after watching movies like On the Waterfront (the cab scene was great), Sunset Blvd, Casablanca, Chinatown, Eastern Promises and Citizen Kane and actors like Marlon Brando, Jack Nicholson and Ingrid Bergman, it’s hard to summon any respect for the likes of on-screen tormentors like the Ajiths, Abhisheks, Aishwaryas and the Trishas of Bollywood & Kollywood. Forget Hollywood, the French or Italians – Koreans and Chinese make movies better than our Bollywood bozos.

    N.B.: BTW, Netflix is coming shortly to XBox 360 Live Gold.

  42. gandhiji   July 16, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    my obsession continues

    Sivaji – The BOSS is still running in Edison, NJ and Queens, NY. And it’s completing 50th day tomorrow in NJ. I am not sure about other centers in USA, but it’s a first South Indian movie had record number of shows and completing 50 days in NJ.

    says a guy in http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/archives/Tamil_Films/t10145_Sivaji___The_deaf_frog_towards_the_hilltop_____10_.html

    Have never touched an XBox in my life.. have been wanting a Wii.. will probably get one during thanksgiving.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    http://www.cineplazaonline.com/cp13/index.asp

    Unless the Tamil version of Sivaji also released elsewhere later in NJ (which we doubt), we think it unlikely the movie could have run for 50 days. Telugu version was screened at Movie City, Edison (NJ) later. Perhaps, the person in the link you provided looked at the two separate dates and thought Sivaji was running for 50 days.

  43. alosiusthere   July 17, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Gandhiji, Dasa has already exceeded the expectation of people here in chennai . It is running in packed houses and the 5th weekend collection in chennai alone is 7.5 crores compared to shivaji’s 7.2 crores. It has grossed 225 crores till date.

    http://sssjv.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/dasavatharam-makes-225-crores-collection/

    Shija had grossed 140 crores on a hole ,so it has already overtaken shivaji. I believe you are living in your own dreamland.

    One estimate says, Sivaji grossed 350 Crores http://businesstoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1219&issueid=34

    when we read this link which was posted by you it tells that it is expected to gross 350 crores and not collected 350 crores for your information still sholay with 240 crores holds the record for a highest grossing indian movie.

    This clearly shows that your information is incorrect and you are a Rajini fanatic.

    The wikepedia link below shows that the movie had only grossed 90 crores after the hype and hoopla.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sivaji:_The_Boss

    The movie has exaggerated and conflicting reports on the cumulative box-office collections worldwide. However according to Business today Nov 2007 edition the film gathered only about Rs.90 crores at the box-office[54], a record of sorts for south Indian films. Recently, a Silver Jubilee function was organized for the film which, in local parlance, symbolizes the box-office success of.

    So let us wait for the final wikepedia result for dasa and keep our fingers crossed. Then we could judge who the real winner is.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    You write above: Shija had grossed 140 crores on a hole ,so it has already overtaken shivaji.

    What does that mean? What is Shija?

  44. gandhiji   July 17, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    yay, another Kamal fanatic.. Anyway, I didn’t say that I trusted Business Today.. I just implied that Business today is more trustworthy than Nakheeran, because Gopalu has issues with Rajini.

    It is actually better than the sssjv.wordpress.com link you gave.. some unknown KF.

    Who said wikipedia can be trusted.

    http://businesstoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3139&issueid=34 best explains the situation. Nobody has any clue.

    225 Crores is ridiculous as is Sivaji’s 350. Yes, I know it is ahead after 4 weeks.. but occupancy% suggest that it won’t be able to keep up. We will know next week.

    And WTH is Shija.

  45. alosiusthere   July 20, 2008 at 4:56 am

    Oh yeah i am a Kamal fanatic for sure. But i am also a fan of quality movies. I missed the “va” in shivaji mate ,so it appeared shiji instead of shivaji anyway thanks for pointing the mistake.

    The following link posted by you,

    http://businesstoday.digitaltoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3139&issueid=34

    clearly suggest the sivaji (I have checked the spelling twice this time……..lol) has gross somewhere around 90 -150 crores . I am sure that dasavatharam will over take this amount shortly.
    Regarding the occupancy percentage i agree with you as it will obviously deteriorate as days go by. Dasavatharam,sivaji,baasha,nayagan or any film is not an exception to the theater occupancy after the initial weeks.
    Finally i would like to know whose information is the most trusted by you,because you have mentioned that ssjv.wordpress.com ,Nakheeran ,wikipedia are least trusted and business today is more trustworthy than Nakheeran. Other than these if there is any please let me notify that media source i would provide you the appropriate stats that Dasavatharam is commercially a superior hit than sivaji for sure in the near future.

  46. gandhiji   July 21, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Hey Aloysius, Nakkallakku onnum katchall Illa.. As the business today article says nobody has a clue. We need to contend
    1) with people trying to hide from the IT
    2) scumbag distributors trying to take advantage of Rajini’s refund policy
    3) Rajini and kamal fanatics throwing around ridiculously opposite numbers

    Dasa box office tracking:
    No. Weeks Completed: 5
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 207
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 60 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.44,49,201.35
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the sixth weekend: Rs.8.55 Crore

    Not bad.. I thought that the fall will be even more precipitous.

    Sivaji after week 5:
    N.O. Weeks Completed: 5.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over the last week: 609.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 243.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over the last week: 63 %.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 78 %.
    Collection over the last week in Chennai: Rs.1.00 crores.
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.0.48 crores.
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the sixth weekend: Rs.8.50 crores.

    I thought that Dasa would fall behind this week.. but just barely escaped(just 5 lakhs ahead).. but you can see the signs.

    Sivaji had 18% higher occupancy than Dasa in the 6th weekend — if we take into account the pricier tickets this year.. then Dasa would have already been behind.

    And Sivaji didn’t have to contend with Kuselan which is opening in 2 weeks.

    At this point of time(after 5 weeks), we need to conclude that Sivaji and Dasa made the same amount of money after 5 weeks world-wide.. But as you see the decline of Dasa is faster.. 65% to 60%. If we agree that Sivaji made 140 crores after running for 14 weeks in over 100 theaters.. we are not even 1/2 way through.. and the Dasa trend has started declining much faster than Sivaji.

    As boxofficemojo shows, Sivaji beat Dasa in both UK and Malaysia. Dasa is not even able to keep up with Muniyandi, which is a flop, in Malaysia.

    So while Dasa is profitable (if it was made for 60 crores), it wouldn’t gross as much as Sivaji.

  47. gandhiji   July 28, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    SinkTrac.. it seems to have had another good week.. just not Sivaji-level..

    Dasa:
    No. Weeks Completed: 6
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 192
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 60 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.38,34,552.60

    Total collections in Chennai by end of the seventh weekend: Rs.9.44 Crore

    Sivaji:
    N.O. Weeks Completed: 6.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over the last week: 324.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 225.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over the last week: 65 %.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 78 %.
    Collection over the last week in Chennai: Rs.1.00 crores.
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.0.45 Crores
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the sixth weekend: Rs.9.00 crores – looks like that reporting was done just before the 7th weekend.

  48. alosiusthere   July 28, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    Gandhiji enakku romba nakkala illa unnaku romba nakkallanu intha stats sollum,

    Dasavatharam – 80th Position (Current Position)
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/yearly/

    Sivaji – Total Collection: $5,871,620 (335th Position)
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/yearly/?yr=2007&sort=gross&order=DESC&pagenum=4&p=.htm

    The above boxofficemojo link shows that Dasa’s collection all around the world is 63 crores while Sivaji’s collection is a mere 25 crores. This collection includes Malaysia, U.K,parts of India and all overseas markets. This does not include chennai,Andra or Kerala and U.S box office collections. According to your comparison and stats Sivaji is already 45 lakhs behind Dasa by the end of 6th week . If Sivaji can gross 150 Crores with just 25 Crore oveseas collection i wonder how Dasa could not collect 200 Crores or more with an overseas opening of 63 Crores.
    Dasa has already collected more money than Sivaji in chennai with fewer no of shows over the weekend. I am not sure how you could compare a movie which has already crossed 200 Crores with a movie that could not satisfy expectation of people after the hype created before its release.
    Ippa solluppa yarukku nakkallnu!!!!!!!!

  49. gandhiji   July 28, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    boxofficemojo stopped updating because dasa’s false stats corrupted their system.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/

  50. gandhiji   August 4, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    Dasa Trac.. this will become a useful reference stat-lovers like me to rate movies for commercial success… Dasa is proving to be almost as big as Sivaji.. but not quite.

    searchindia, you can stop publishing this post.. i will take a hint and stop posting the BO information..

    Dasa probably suffered the Kuselan effect.. number of shows has been cut to half.
    No. Weeks Completed: 7
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 101
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 55 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.15,54,228

    Total collections in Chennai by end of the eighth weekend: Rs.10.08 Crore

    N.O. Weeks Completed: 7.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over the last week: 300.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 189.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over the last week: 65 %.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 74 %.
    Collection over the last week in Chennai: Rs.0.50 crores.
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.0.38 Crores
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the eighth weekend: Rs.9.90 crores

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  51. dilip   August 6, 2008 at 12:38 am

    gandhiji you are in the dark room. you are the only one who is saying dasa is not bigger hit than sivaji. you must be really adament. kuselan is a downright failure inspite of huge artificial hype created by media. das has grossed more than 10cr from cnai alone in less than 8 weeks. sivaji grossed only 95cr not even 100cr. dasa is already touching 150cr mark

    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/aug-08-01/dasavatharam-05-08-08.html
    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-slide-shows/movie-2/top-ten-movies/tamil-cinema-topten-movie-dasavatharam.html

    sivaji took 12 weeks to touch 10cr mark in cnai.
    dasa took only 7 weeks.
    dasa has ran 50 days in about 1425 cinema halls.record that has not created by any tamil movie.

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  52. dilip   August 6, 2008 at 1:14 am

    hi gandhiji you rajni fanatic this link clearly shows that dasa has grossedd many more than sivaji.

    it has grossed 2cr rs from england alone.it celebrated 50days in all the theatres it released.

    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/18072008-2.shtml
    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/19062008-3.shtml

    it has celebrated 50days even in uae,some screens in us.
    some in uk some in malysia and singapore.
    it has celebrated 50 days in all the theatre it has relesed in andhraa, kl and karnataka and in mumbai and delhi. remember Hindi version is still to come.

  53. gandhiji   August 6, 2008 at 9:13 am

    http://entertainment.oneindia.in/tamil/exclusive/rajini-uncrowned-emperor-271207.html
    Sivaji made 160 crore. Over 14 crores in Chennai. It crossed 10 crores in 8 weeks. It has 9.9 crores in 7 weeks, how can it take 12 weeks to cross 10.. silly!

    N.O. Weeks Completed: 8.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over the last week: 252.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 153.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over the last week: 53 %.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 64 %.
    Collection over the last week in Chennai: Rs.0.37 crores.
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.0.26 Crores
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the eighth weekend: Rs.10.53 crores
    You couldn’t wait, right?

    It made 38 lakhs in the eighth weekend. Dasa made 15 lakhs..

    Saying that Dasa is a bigger success than Sivaji is like saying that “Kuruvi” is bigger than “Haridas” because it grossed more. It was marketed better in the early weeks, but it is not able to match the staying power. People want to check out the 10 role gimmick (and end up disappointed).

    You have no proof that Dasa made 150 crores. It may have run 50 days in some screens in UAE.. but it won’t run 100 days in UK and Canada like Sivaji did. Sivaji collected 2.75 crores in UK (as opposed to Dasa’s 2 from more number of screens).
    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news/july-07-01/03-07-07-sivaji.html

  54. gandhiji   August 6, 2008 at 9:22 am

    And Kuselan took 1 crore in the first week in UK. Rajini put in about a month’s worth Vs. Kamal’s two years off toiling.. it must be frustrating to be a Kamal fan. I sincerely hope that Marmayogi is as good as Kamal’s good movies.. Dasa was pure P.O.S.

    http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/box-office/2008/kuselan-leads-060808.html

  55. dilip   August 7, 2008 at 1:38 am

    gandhiji your comedy does not seem to stop. you said even muniyandi is bigger hit than dasa. you are silly get your facts wright. sivaji has grossed only 11 cr from chennai even after 15 weeks. you are saying it grosseed 14cr. sivaji at last grossed only 95cr.
    see this report from the production house avm.you seem to know even more than producers.

    http://www.hindu.com/rp/2008/04/20/stories/2008042050090200.htm

    dasa has alredy touching 150cr mark.it has run 50 days in around 250 cinema halls in tamilnadu. in 250 cinema halls in andhra. 80 in kerala.even in uae ,in us uk and malaysia.it ran 50 days.you are just dreaming.

  56. dilip   August 7, 2008 at 2:01 am

    hi gandhiji you are saying kuselan a hit comparing to dasa.r u totally mad .do you have anything called brain.
    kuselan is utter flop and it is washout.
    most of the theatres are empty within a week.go to inox website and sathyam website most of the tickets are available.

    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/06082008-6.shtml

    http://www.ibnlive.com/news/rajini-magic-failing-kuselan-struggles-at-bo/70500-8.html .
    stop your comedy when the whole world is saying onr thing you are saying a different thing.

  57. Panneer   August 7, 2008 at 2:39 am

    Hey Gandhiji,

    What happened ma…… Are you in August 2007? Now August 2008 is running ma.

    Dasa already collected 10+ C in chennai in 50 days. But Sivaji 9+ C in chennai after 100 days.Don’t get jealous ma. Agree dasa is big hit than sivaji.

    Remember

    Kamal = Shankar + Rajini + ARR + vivek

  58. gandhiji   August 7, 2008 at 8:17 am

    Dear MKM* Dilip,

    1) Regarding your claim “you are saying kuselan a hit comparing to dasa”.. Please read my message again. If you didn’t understand, please ask a neighbour’s 1st grade kid to translate it for you.

    2) This is for both you and the MKM2 Panneer.
    http://entertainment.oneindia.in/tamil/exclusive/rajini-uncrowned-emperor-271207.html
    It made 8 crores profit share for distributors – that excludes the 6.2 investment that made. Catch hold that same kid (he/she doesn’t need to be too smart.. just has to be smarter an low-IQed Kamal fan) to do the math for ya. . I don’t know what tags work here for making my comments bolder.
    The same article also says that Sivaji made 160 crores..
    If you notice Dasa’s shows and occupancy rates have been going down more drastically(than Sivaji) every week. The hindu article you posted says that Sivaji made 100 crores for the producer.. It doesn’t give the distributors profits. It made 8 crores profit in Chennai alone for the distributors.. extrapolate that.

    3) Regarding you claims that Dasa has already made 150 crores.. where is your proof? It does look like it may make that much at the end of its run.. so be happy.. but accept that Dasa is crappy.. Even Kamal has agreed that Dasa has not story and is full of mistakes
    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jul-08-01/kamal-04-07-08.html
    and
    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/july-08-03/marmayogi-19-07-08.html
    I wish Kamal had used the extraordinary efforts to give us a good movie. Hope Marmayogi will be good.. If it is good, I’ll root for it to beat Sivaji’s record.

    *MKM – Mathi Ketta Moodheyvi

  59. Panneer   August 8, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Hi MOM Gandhiji

    Rajini is a mental(World truth), then his fans also.

    But you are MOM (Mental of Mentals)or Educated Mental. Do you know tamil?… if you know

    Read the below

    http://in.tamil.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Bollywood/0808/07/1080807037_1.htm

    ‘பாபா’வை நினைவுகூறும் ‘குசேலன்’!
    ஒபனிங் நன்றாக இருந்தாலும், போகப் போக ‘பாபா’வுக்கு போட்டியாகிவிடுவார் போல் இருக்கிறார், ‘குசேலன்’.

    வெளியான மூன்றாவது நாளே பாக்ஸ் ஆஃபிஸில் முதலிடத்தைக் கைப்பற்றியது ரஜினியின் ‘குசேலன்’.

    சென்னையில் மூன்று நாள் வசூல் எண்பத்தி ஒன்றரை லட்சம்! ஆனால், நான்காவது நாள்?

    அனைத்து திரையரங்குகளும் வெறிச்சோடத் தொடங்கின.! எப்போது போனாலும் கவுண்ட்டரில் டிக்கெட் வாங்கலாம்.

    சென்னை மல்டி பிளக்ஸில் முதல் நாள் 43 ஷோ திரையிட்டவர்கள், நான்காவது நாள் இருபத்து மூன்று ஷோவாக குறைத்துக் கொண்டனர். புறநகர் திரையரங்குகளில் மூன்று ஷோவாக சுருங்கி, காலைக்காட்சியை ‘மம்மி’ ஹாலிவுட் படம் ஆக்ரமித்துள்ளது.

    இன்றைய உத்தேச கணக்குப்படி அறுபது கோடி ரூபாய்க்கு படத்தை வாங்கிய பிரமிட் சாய்மீராவுக்கு 20,25 கோடிகள் நஷ்டம்.

    மேலும், அவுட்ரேட் முறையில் படத்தை விநியோகித்தவர்களுக்கு ஐம்பது சதவீதம் வரை நஷ்டம். எம்.ஜி. முறையில் படத்தை திரையிட்டவர்களுக்கு நஷ்டம் முப்பது சதவீதம்.

    இந்த வருவாய் இழப்பு மேலும் தொடரும் என அஞ்சப்படுகிறதாம்! 2004-ல் ‘பாபா’ படுத்த நிலை மீண்டும் ஏற்பட வாய்ப்புள்ளது.

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  60. Panneer   August 8, 2008 at 12:37 am

    Hi MOM Gandhiji

    Rajini is a Mental then his fans also

    But you are MOM (Mental of Mentals)

    Read the below

    [Deleted because the LENGTHY comment was in Tamil.]

    Hi MOM wake up man.

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  61. gandhiji   August 8, 2008 at 8:41 am

    Panneerae, Panneerae.., umma paathu kanneer varuthu emmakku (Rose water, Rose Water, I pity you)

    I didn’t say that Dasavatharam hasn’t collected 10.08 in 8 weeks.. in fact, I posted the same information above (You have proved that Dilip is not the Kamal fan with the least comprehension ability.. the situation for KFA is even worse than I thought). I also posted information that it is 18 lakhs more than what Sivaji collected in 8 weeks… Dasa has been reduced to 100 shows in the 8th weekend.. Sivaji did 153 shows in the 8th weekend.

    I said Sivaji collected 14 lakhs (after running for 25 weeks.. which included over 100 days in 112 theaters.)

    Regarding Kuselan, ask Dilip for explanation about my post.. he would have probably got an explanation from his neighbor’s kid by now..

    Purinjudha? (Understood?).. illaina Venneer‘la kulichittu appuram paarum (if not, take a hot bath, and then read my posts again)

  62. dilip   August 9, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    hi MOM gandhiji dasa released in 21 screens in cnai sivaji only 16 screens then how come after 6 weeks that is in seventh weekend sivaji will be running more shows than dasa. in madurai my home town dasa still running in all screens it released .it released in more screeens than sivaji.
    records created by dasa
    1.released in more screens than sivaji.
    2.ran 50 days in more screens than sivaji
    3.collected more than sivaji.

    sivaji grossed only 100cr ok you mandu see this link .even productionhouse avm who produced this movie has said that. http://www.hindu.com/rp/2008/04/20/stories/2008042050090200.htm
    wake up MOM.

  63. dilip   August 9, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    in chennai ttolly after 13 weeks sivaji grossedd only 11 cr. dasa is already touching that mark.

  64. dilip   August 9, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    hi gandhiji accept the facts dont be in a dark room. das was huge hit and bigger hit than sivaji.

  65. dilip   August 9, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    hi gandhiji kuselan is washout see this
    http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14736612&cid=2363

    this site has made lot of baloneys about rajinikanth saying he is 100 time sharukhkhan. his charisma is enough to bring people to the thetres. he is a sole superstar.now i dont know whay are they going to say.
    kamlhaasan has shown he is not only better actor than rajni also a big star.

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  66. gandhiji   August 9, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    Dearest Dilip, you said hi MOM gandhiji dasa released in 21 screens in cnai sivaji only 16 screens then how come after 6 weeks that is in seventh weekend sivaji will be running more shows than dasa. .

    Please sit with Panneer and discuss how that could be possible.. He may probably have a better understanding on this. It is not that tough to deduce what could have happened. maybe the 10-role gimmick is losing steam and theater owners are shutting down shows..


    So did you like Subramaniapuram? Wasn’t it better than Dasavatharam?

    And for the rest of your repetitions go back to my earlier post and re-read it.
    http://indiablogs.searchindia.com/2008/06/24/is-dasavatharam-sinking/#comment-1776

    Let’s see who gets to say the final word before searchindia decides to put an end to this nonsensical exchange 🙂

  67. dilip   August 10, 2008 at 3:36 am

    hi MOM gandhiji you wrote”maybe the 10-role gimmick is losing steam and theater owners are shutting down shows”. wat do you mean by this .you are certainly mad.it is kuselan not faring well and lot of theatre owners are cutting down the shows and distributors crying.you must be blind .dont you see anything that is happening around you.you said sivaji collected 160cr which is a lie.it collected only 100cr.

    see this once more read it properly you must be blind
    or you need a teacher to explain this.
    http://www.hindu.com/rp/2008/04/20/stories/2008042050090200.htm
    sivaji collected only 11 cr from cnai on a whole even after 13 weeks.
    go to behindwoods and see he weekly collection and weekends collection.

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    Going by several reports cited earlier by Dilip and others, it seems Kuselan is a dud missile.

  68. gandhiji   August 10, 2008 at 9:27 am

    yeah.. I never said that Kuselan is a bigger hit than dasa, did i? that’s why i asked you to read my message over and over again.. but you never got the point. I just said that Rajini in a 40 minute role has almost the same pullin power as Kamal’s 2 year effort.. so we know who the box office star is..

    if you read my other posts, i have been saying that kamal is one of the greatest actors in India.. but dasa is one of his worst movies. Purinjudha?? I am sure he messed up when he tried to add commercial elements into his actual project. So I hope Marmayogi will be good..
    If I am forced to watch a whole movie – (if I am tied to a chair and given a choice to watch one full movie), I’d watch Virumaandi (and some other Kamal movies) over Sivaji and Dasavatharam.. But in Sivaji I’d watch some scenes like the Motta boss scenes over and over again. In Dasa, i wouldn’t want to watch any scene again.

    once again hindu report says 100 crores for the producer.. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DISTRIBUTORS PROFIT. Purinjudha – part deux.

  69. alosiusthere   August 10, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Hi Gandhiji….. I pity you mate. You could not digest the success of Dasa . Even my friend who were hard core fans of Rajini have accepted the fact that Dasa is a superior hit than Sivaji. According to you if Dasa was released in less no of shows than Sivaji then how could it gross more money than Sivaji in less no of weeks?…
    This fact clearly indicated that Dasa is a superior hit than Sivaji. It is time for you stop your filthy arguements and accept the fact .

    Dasa is running in 750 centers world wide after 50days.

    http://www.andhrastudio.com/studio.php?id=5342

    To add to your woes the much hyped “Kuselan” is stuggling at the box office and distributor are asking to return their minimum guarantee amount as the movie has failed to succeed at the box office.
    Dilip, Paneer and mysely have given ample amount of facts & figures to prove that Dasa is better than Sivaji,still you want to prolong your stupid arguements which makes you a joker and the whole world is watching you . So stop you comedy as well as your idiotic comments.

  70. gandhiji   August 10, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    ah.. baffling.. do you 3 really don’t understand the data posted from behindwoods or are you pretending that you don’t understand?

    it was released on much more number of screens and with more number of shows/day than sivaji (so its collection was much more than sivaji in the first 4 weeks.. the higher ticket prices also helped) but it is being taken out from the theaters at a faster rate than sivaji.. (so now things are evening out) atleast in chennai.. chennai is the only indian city where the box office data is available. The other two box office details are available from UK and Malaysia.. both places had Sivaji collecting more than Dasa..

    The Golti version of Dasa is probably doing better business (that doesn’t necessarily mean it is a fan favorite – people are watching it like they would watch a freakshow) than the Golti version of Sivaji because it was released in 260 prints.. do you have box office information to confirm that? .. Dasa is definitely a blockbuster, In Tamil, sivaji is a better winner.. atleast in Chennai, UK and Malaysia.. we don’t have data from any other place. The marketing was obviously much better for Dasa.. (Sivaji’s 800 prints Vs. Dasa’s 1300 prints) Sivaji’s success paved way for the Dasa strategy..

    even Kuselan has sexy posters claiming overwhelming success.. that doesn’t prove anything.. you are giving a poster as a proof!

    my woes? i am only talking about dasa’s declining trend in chennai with behindwoods data, which I assume is true
    world is watching me? what do i care.. i am anonymous, dodo.. i could very well be kamal hassan testing the height of his fans’ stupidity.

    forget the box office collections.. truthfully answer this question

    Among Kamal movies where would you rank Dasavatharam — it wouldn’t even feature in YOUR top 10.
    he cheated the true fans like you. he is a traitor. join the Rajini camp!

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  71. gandhiji   August 11, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Dasavatharam falls behind sivaji after 8 weeks in Chennai. Good run! But not quite as powerful as the boss.

    It probably will end up collecting the same (because of the higher number of prints that were released..
    ) as Sivaji but not quite as magnificently.. It has fallen off the top 5 in Telugu box office charts already
    http://sify.com/movies/telugu/fullstory.php?id=14735802&cid=14625527

    Pasavatharam:
    No. Weeks Completed: 8
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 114
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 50 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 11,83,594
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the ninth weekend: Rs.10.36 Crore

    Sivaji:
    N.O. Weeks Completed: 8.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over the last week: 252.
    N.O. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 153
    Average Theatre Occupancy over the last week: 53 %.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 64 %.
    Collection over the last week in Chennai: Rs.0.37 crores.
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.0.26 Crores
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the eighth weekend: Rs.10.53 crores

  72. dilip   August 12, 2008 at 4:49 am

    what is the source for the collection of sivaji given.it is not in behindwoods.sivaji took longer time to reach 10cr.

  73. dilip   August 12, 2008 at 4:55 am

    hi gandhiji you MOM.your comedy has no limit.you wrote”Rajini in a 40 minute role has almost the same pullin power as Kamal’s 2 year effort.. so we know who the box office star is”.
    kuselan is a utterflop you puphet wake up.thetre are dried even before a week.
    sivaji gross revenue is 100cr.you comedian dont ou indersatnd.it means both producer and distributors share.

    dasavatharam is running till now in 750centres.

  74. gandhiji   August 12, 2008 at 8:13 am

    Sivaji weekly numbers are from behindwoods numbers posted on other websites.
    http://www.cinemaonline.com.my/forum/forum_sub.asp?id=2802. Scroll down. They have the August 15 timestamp and they have no reason to lie..

    I can also give you the week 9 collections of Sivaji beforehand:
    http://www.naachgaana.com/2007/08/20/chennai-box-office-few-surprises/
    N.O. Weeks Completed: 9.
    No. Shows in Chennai over the last week: 204.
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 123.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over the last week: 41 %.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 51 %.
    Collection over the last week in Chennai: Rs.0.22 crores.
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.0.16 Crores
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the tenth weekend: Rs.10.91 crores

    I am posting Dasa information here so that it will be useful for later reference.
    Anyway, you have to agree that Dasa will struggle to make the 14 crores (http://entertainment.oneindia.in/tamil/exclusive/rajini-uncrowned-emperor-271207.html) in Chennai that Sivaji made because it is making .1 crore/week.. which will dwindle to a few thousands in a few more weeks.

    100 crores mentioned in hindu is the “studio turnover”. Doesn’t include distributor’s share. We won’t agree on the terminology.. so quit complaining.


    http://www.rajinifans.com/boxoffice/boxoffice.php Sivaji was running in 800 theaters worldwide after 50 days. (Take that, [trash talk]!)

    OK, forgot about the collections.. you have been avoiding this question.

    Among Kamal movies where would you rank Dasavatharam — it wouldn’t even feature in YOUR top 10.

  75. born2win1   August 14, 2008 at 4:01 am

    Dasavatharam leads Sivaji in overseas Collection by a whopping $1,03,56,130

    Dasa is in 80th position worldwide and still running..
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/yearly/?yr=2008&p=.htm

    sivaji is in 336th position for 2007
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/yearly/?yr=2007&sort=gross&order=DESC&pagenum=4&p=.htm

    Note: Hindi version is yet to be released.

  76. gandhiji   August 14, 2008 at 9:54 am

    I don’t believe the “international” numbers are right, because the boxofficemojo internation is currently shutdown. I have discussed that later in this post.

    Let’s do a breakdown

    I have the following breakdown:
    Chennai – Sivaji 10.53 Vs. Dasa 10.36 crores (see my post above) in 8 weeks and Sivaji did 14 Crores overall. Dasa won’t be able to match it.
    UK – Sivaji 3.26+ crores (http://www.behindwoods.com/bollywood/hindi-movies-news/aug-07-01/29-08-07-heyy-babyy.html) Vs.Dasa’s 2 Crores
    Malaysia – Sivaji 11+ Crores (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/malaysia/?yr=2007&wk=31&p=.htm) Vs. Dasa’s 8 Crores

    please publish the breakdowns from where Dasa did better than Sivaji with reliable websites – not posters made by fan clubs and theater ownders.

    I’ll tell why the “overseas” boxofficemojo numbers are not reliable ( YOU NEED TO CONCENTRATE HERE
    Look up http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/malaysia/?yr=2007&wk=31&p=.htm
    It shows that Sivaji made $3,788 in Malaysia alone.

    But look up the “Overseas” numbers for that week http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2007&wk=31&p=.htm .. there are many movies that made much less than 3788 but Sivaji is not featuring in it.

    Now check
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2007&wk=27&p=.htm
    and then th next week
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/weekend/?yr=2007&wk=28&p=.htm

    The Gross-to-date went down by over 2.5 mil.. puzzling isn’t it.. I think the site is being run by Dilip or someone as incompetent. Dasa’s overseas number could well be correct, but Sivaji would not be that behind.. most likely Sivaji should be ahead if we think the rest of the world followed Chennai, UK and Malaysia.. but it is quite possible that Dasa did better than Sivaji in other places like the middle east, AP etc.. but we don’t have solid proof for that. But I have read lot of articles that Sivaji rocked Canada and Sri Lanka
    http://www.kollywoodtoday.com/news/sivaji-100th-day-in-usa/ because Sivaji had more the twice the following among Sri Lankans (and of course India)

    http://google.com/trends?q=sivaji%2C+dasavatharam
    Those graphs are numbers show that Dasavatharam is not even 1/2 as popular as Sivaji was.

    All Kamal fans are avoiding this question:
    Among Kamal movies where would you rank Dasavatharam — it wouldn’t even feature in YOUR top 10.

  77. Panneer   August 18, 2008 at 4:07 am

    Hi MOM Gandhiji,

    You told Sivaji is collected 160 Crore.

    Read the following

    http://tamil.webdunia.com/entertainment/film/featuresorarticles/0808/16/1080816041_1.htm

    [Deleted because the comment was entirely in Tamil]

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  78. gandhiji   August 18, 2008 at 10:03 am

    Panneer, yes webdunia is the best source for box office information.. actually someone posted this link before — was it also you with a different nickname “chrish”? are all 4 of the kamal fans different avatars of Dilip.. are you Kamal?

    Te futueo et caballum tuum

    My reply
    http://indiablogs.searchindia.com/2008/06/24/is-dasavatharam-sinking/#comment-1569

    All Kamal fans are avoiding this question 🙂 :
    Among Kamal movies where would you rank Dasavatharam — it wouldn’t even feature in YOUR top 10.

  79. gandhiji   August 18, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Dasa:
    No. Weeks Completed: 9
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 93
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 40 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 6,63,633
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the tenth weekend: Rs. 10.55 Crore

    Sivaji:
    N.O. Weeks Completed: 9.
    No. Shows in Chennai over the last week: 204.
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 123.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over the last week: 41 %.
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 51 %.
    Collection over the last week in Chennai: Rs.0.22 crores.
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs.0.16 Crores
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the tenth weekend: Rs.10.91 crores

    I don’t have data for Sivaji from 10th week onwards. so i’ll just post dasa stats next week.. till it stays on the charts.

  80. dilip   August 22, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    gandhiji do not talk like a fool i do not have any avatars. You wil be condemned by anyone because you are arguing like a fool without any base.where is the source to prove sivaji grossed 10.91 cr from 10 weeks. It grossed only 11 cr on a total run (ie even after 15 weeks).

  81. dilip   August 22, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    hi MOM gandhiji accept the facts and get away. According to you all the site like boxofficemojo behindwoods are wrong only you are right.you are saying sivaji grossed 14cr overall from cnai which is ridiculous. It grossed only 11cr. What is the source for your claim.

  82. gandhiji   August 25, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    Dasa collections still decent for 10 weeks..
    No. Weeks Completed: 10
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 93
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 35 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 6,72,865
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the eleventh weekend: Rs. 10.68 Crore

    It will struggle to cross 12 crore, I think.. leave alone touch the 14.2 crores that Sivaji made.
    Proof:
    http://entertainment.oneindia.in/tamil/exclusive/rajini-uncrowned-emperor-271207.html
    6 crores investment + 8.2 crores profit=14.2 crores. Stop asking for proof..

    I saw Subramaniapuram (which has collected almost as much as Dasa this week) on DVD yesterday.. got to say that I was disappointed.. expected too much, I think.. but still better than Dasavatharam. Fell in love with Swathi..(probably because I was seeing a thavani in a movie after a long time).. although she doesn’t have much scope for acting.

    Question for Kamal fans:

    Among Kamal movies where would you rank Dasavatharam — it wouldn’t even feature in YOUR top 10.

  83. shuaib68   August 27, 2008 at 3:51 am

    God! I never imagined that there are so much of gooks living in this world calling themselves “Kamal Fans, Rajni Fans..” It’s worthwhile if they call themselves after something useful – like “USHA fan, KDK Fan…” atleast it will help you to calm your sick nerves.

    Look, movies are there to entertain people who are looking for some sort of relation after working and running around the world to make ends meet in most cases. It should never be a mode to injure the already damaged minds of the people.

    These Tamil movies are exactly the opposite of this simple fact. They have created imaginary “Heroes” who are always demonstrating foolishness and funny things which even the modern day children who have watched movies like, Jurrasic Park, Spiderman, Toy Story, Chicken Run, Incredibles, Ice Age, Rat-a-touille, and the likes, would laugh to death.

    There’s a “bubonic plague” over taken the tamil movie industry’s minds to copy certain action sequences from Hollywood directly applying to unwanted fight scenes. Like the “Spiderman” action scene of bending backward to avoid a front blow by the attacker and leaving that strike to fly away without a punch.

    These gimmicks have been over used in many movies repeatedly by many A grade, B grade, C Grade,…Z grade actors. What’s wrong with these guys.

    I have many bad experiences of watching lousy bl**dy Tamil movies no respect to the intelligence of the viewer. They simply think that the movie goers bulk of them are just Buffoons like they’re hardcore fanatics.

    Malai- Made for the donkeys. Do we ever see a respectable familiy allowing a decent girl to dance in the rain like a striptease???

    Sivaji – Old grandfather coming to India to invest on charity work dressed up like a youngster and having mother & father of his same age and getting married to a grandchild????

    Alagiya Thamil Magan – acting or sleepwalking??? I can’t write anymore about this movie because it’s one the lowest crap I have ever seen.

    Varalaaru – God Father??? Good that Hollywood objected using the title of a great movie to a crap like this. They don’t even ask from somebody what God Father means. Its meaning goes as : “God Parent” a person who sponsors a God Child. So, these gooks have twisted the whole meaning of the word God Father into something of a person who is dead and revered for his sacrifices.. or whatever (God only knows what these fellows imply).
    Don’t they know that the native foreign languages when it’s directly translated means something else in English???

    DASAVATARAM – Actually, I was going to get out of the cinema theatre after watching it for 30 minutes. But, my wife told me to wait for some time to get something good, it was a mirage… I had the misfortune of watching this “Ulaga Crap nayagan” until it’s over. I don’t have anything to say more than what I read in your site about it.

    This is the last of my experiment with trying take some enjoyment by watching a tamil movie. Once I watched a movie of Kamal where he mispells the word “Pynol” as “Fenoyil” I don’t know why??? I am a Sri Lankan by the way. We call that detergent as it’s original name “Pynol”. It will be picked up by children and use it the same wrong way.

    I do really enjoy the replies given by “Search India” of the comments made by these zombee fans. Had I known before this sight I wouldn’t have lost 60 Dirhams in Abu Dhabi for watching a garbage. In fact, your answers are like a Box Office movie dialogues. Sorry forr my lousy english…

    Thank you Search India for giving us unbiased review.

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  84. dilip   August 27, 2008 at 4:44 am

    hi gandhiji you are a big comedian stop giving wrong sources. When you are giving sources to dasa you are giving behindwoods source. sivaji was distributed for 6 cr in cnai alone.and collected (includes both distrn and theatre owner share) only 11cr over all. in all the areas dasa collected more than sivaji. ok do not give wrong informations. 6cr is not investment it is the ditrn when you say grossed it includes both distrn and thetr shares.
    collection means both distrn and theatre collection.

    see this link
    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/18072008-2.shtml
    it has put sivaji in a shade. collections of dasa in cnai is a new record.

  85. gandhiji   August 27, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    hey shuaib68, how was Kamal’s sri lankan tamil accent in Tenali.. although the movie was crappy, I thought Kamal’s sri lankan tamil was pretty good.. but you will probably the better judge there..

    “fenoyil” is how they call pynol is Madurai.. Kamal might have goofed up a bit.

    /ignore dilip

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    shuaib68 will probably respond later but we must add that Tenali is an outright and pathetic lift of that fine Hollywood comedy What About Bob?

  86. gandhiji   August 27, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    And did you know that Kamal or KS Ravikumar (not sure which one of them), had the nerve to say that they had never seen “What About Bob”.. Bill Murray is great.. “Groundhog Day” is one of my favorite movies.

    I thought Tenali was derailed by Jayaram’s overacting or wahtever that he did there.. Like you I never liked jothika.. but i don’t hate her as much as you do.. you hate with a lot of passion.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    1. You write: And did you know that Kamal or KS Ravikumar (not sure which one of them), had the nerve to say that they had never seen “What About Bob”..

    Whoever said that is a lying SOB.

    2. You write: Like you I never liked jothika

    Jothika adds depth – and gives new meaning – to the word crude. You have no idea how grateful we are to Surya.

    3. I thought Tenali was derailed by Jayaram’s overacting or wahtever that he did there..

    True. As we wrote a few years back in our review of Thenali, While Richard Dreyfuss was delightful as the psychiatrist Leo Marvin in What about Bob, Jayaram is absolutely horrifying as Dr.Kailash. This bloke – Jayaram – is clueless in the acting department.

    Kamal was a beneficiary of theft in Thenali. But theft is hardly new in Indian movies. Indians have scant respect for others’ intellectual property.

  87. dilip   August 27, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    hi gandhiji you MOM.if you ignore me it is clear that informations given by you are wrong and you seem to not accept the fact that das is a huge blockbuster and grossed more than sivaji.
    The area wise distribution for dasa has a created a record and was distributed for huge price much more than sivaji. first understand what is gross. what is production and what is distribution. if sivaji is distributed for 6cr in Chennai alone it means Chennai area distributor has paid Rs6cr for producer of Sivaji. so it is investment made by distributors. if Sivaji has grossed 10cr form 10 weeks it means the collection through ticket sales.2/3 of the collection go to distributors and 1/3 go to theater owners(say 3.3cr go to theater owners and rest goes to distributors)without understanding this you are doing a big comedy.
    Dasa was distributed for 30cr in tamilnadu alone excluding Chennai area .in Chennai area it was distributed for 7cr one crore more than sivaji.

    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/06052008-4.shtml

  88. shuaib68   August 28, 2008 at 3:15 am

    Gandhiji, thank you for observing my comments. Expalanation on “Fenoyl” accepted. But, you see, Movie industry is gone international. So, you should at least be considerate of others’ knowlegde of the subjects.

    Coming to Thenali – Yes we all enjoyed the movie but that will leave kamal from plagiarism as searchindia says. I came to know now that it’s a robbery. Thenali, although he tries to emulate the Sri Lankan accent of speaking Tamil is very much exaggerated.

    The music in Thenali doesn’t represent Sri Lankan Tamil Song style. It rather, a combination of “Street Baila” songs mixed with Cricket Band music that you hear in international cricket matches when it’s played in SRi Lanka.

    You get youngsters hiring “Molam Bands” (The musicians from the poorest section of the colombo suburbs who are being hired to perform in funerals and election/May day celebrations.

    The Sri Lankan Tamil music industry although it’s not upto the level of western mixed modern tamil music, it has a unique feature. My only best tamil musician is by the great Ilayaraja. He’s the best and the natural tamil musician.

    About theft of Hollywood movie ideas: This is not the first time or the last time Kamal tried to copy other’s ideas. In “soora samharam” I think, a scene was copied from Lethal Weapon. Where a drug addict girl is jumping from balcony of a building and a suspense scene is created around it.

    I still prefer watching “Sakala Kala Wallawan” “Thoongathey Thamby Thoongathey” for purely entertainment purposes. I love them as they are typical Tamil movie which I like very much.

    Those periods are gone now. There are good movies still we like to watch such as:”Parijaadham” “Moli” ” Saththam Podathey” and even I liked almost all movies of present excepting to some garbage ones.

    I don’t say AR Rahman or any other good musicians are bad. But, when it comes to Tamil music, he has safeguarded the beauty of tamil music – This is my opinion.

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    You write: There are good movies still we like to watch such as:”Parijaadham” “Moli” ” Saththam Podathey”

    Yes, Sathum Podaathay was a Fine entertainer

  89. shuaib68   August 28, 2008 at 3:45 am

    ….continued, I missed out something in my previous comments..

    The song in Thenali “ojaye” is a copy from the baila song “Oye, Ojaye” by Gypsies. A sinhalese music group which is famous for baila songs. Baila is a mixture of sinhala folk with portugese folk songs which was introduced to Sri Lanka during colonial period that was ruled by the Dutch/Portugese colonists.

    I think my historical info’s are correct to the best of my knowledge.

    AR Rahman even copied music from Paul Young’s “Love of the common People”. I think he used this to a song in a movie of Prabhu Deva. The opening beat of the Paul young song was directly copied to the tamil song. I think the movie is ROMEO. Not sure. The song is “Malargaley, Malargaley idhu enna kanawaa…”

    • Hari Jr   November 14, 2011 at 9:26 am

      That movie is Love Birds

      In that song Malargale Malargale, that sound beat is a total lift!!

      Insufferable..

  90. gandhiji   August 28, 2008 at 8:18 am

    Shuaib, thanks for the tidbits on Sri Lankan music. I love both IR and ARR.. IR is probably better because his songs from the 80s still give me goosebumps. Others like YuvanSR and Harris gave also given us some catchy tunes. But quite a sizeable number of songs (even IR’s http://www.itwofs.com/tamil-ir.html) have been inspired/directly lifted from other obscure (to the normal tamil listeners like me) sources. Check out http://www.itwofs.com/tamil-yuvan.html .. Yuvan has been doing it really bad.. Heck, even GV Prakash has started stealing in just his 3rd movie. Check out #46 on http://www.itwofs.com/tamil-others.html.

    The Paul Young song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyLrsu9YWo4 seems to have the same beat as “Akkadanu Naanga..” from “Indian”..

  91. gandhiji   August 28, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    hey Dilip,
    If Dasa was sold for 1 crore more than Sivaji and has fallen behind Sivaji after 8 weeks, doesn’t it mean that it is commericially less successful?

    what does

    Rajini has once again proved himself as the uncrowned emperor of Tamil cinema through his film’s amazing distributor’s profit share of Rs 8 crores (For Chennai only, excluding the investment of Rs 6.2 cr.)
    mean?

    Are you saying that it is false information? Or am I understanding it incorrectly? please explain..

    Sivaji has won handsomely in Chennai, Malaysia and UK.Chennai .
    Sivaji 10.91 crores in 9 weeks Vs. Dasavatharam 10.68 in 10 weeks
    UK – Sivaji 3.26+ crores Vs.Dasa’s 2 Crores
    Malaysia – Sivaji 11+ crores Vs. Dasa’s 7+ Crores

    As I said that Dasavatharam could have performed well in other cities.. like Madurai?? please share reliable links so that we can have this page as a useful reference against the next blockbuster.

    Sivaji was a craze in Malaysia, UK, Singapore, Sri Lanka .. Where exactly is Dasavatharam beating sivaji?

  92. shuaib68   August 30, 2008 at 1:47 am

    Gandhiji, yes it is. The same beat is used in “INDIAN” song “Akkadannu Naanga..”.

    Have you noticed the song ” Oh, Sona, Oh Sona, I love you love you love…” that comes in Ajith movie is actually a song that was done by “The Art Company” – “Susanna” way back in the 80’s. I think it’s British Pop Band in 80’s. It was in the UK top 10 charts for several weeks.

  93. dilip   August 30, 2008 at 6:57 am

    Hi Gandhiji
    You are reluctant to accept the facts. See these links. Do you think all these are false?
    The all links below shows record created by dasa by breaking records of sivaji. dasa collected much more than sivaji in both India and overseas. dasa opened with more screens than sivaji worldwide. In Chennai too it opened in more screens than sivaji and reservation rate for dasa is also much higher than Sivaji.
    This link shows that it has put Sivaji collections in shade it made more money in Chennai in 31days than sivaji and also in all parts of world it made more money than sivaji.
    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/18072008-2.shtml
    This link shows that at end of 17 days it collected more than sivaji. when rajni can be called as vasool chakravarthy kamal can be called as vasool mahachakravarthy.
    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/04072008-1.shtml
    This link shows that in England it has collected much more than sivaji.
    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/19062008-3.shtml
    This link shows that it is first south Indian movie to be released in usa with 40prints and releasing in 50 screens and also shows in Chennai too it released in more theater than Sivaji .in suburban also it released in more screens than Sivaji
    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/05062008-6.shtml
    This link shows that dasa is the first movie in Tamil which releases with more prints than any other movie including sivaji .its Kannada right is alone sold for 1.85cr which is yet to be released which is a new record.
    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/10052008-4.shtml

    Note:read this slowly and carefully you will understand.

  94. gandhiji   August 30, 2008 at 9:29 am

    Dude, you are killing me.. I accept that it was released with more number of prints and it collected more than Sivaji in the first 4 weeks in Chennai.. but after that Sivaji had more staying power. In the UK and Malaysisa, even more number of theaters did NOT help. You are the one reluctant to accept facts that Sivaji won in Chennai, UK and Malaysia..

    For the UK results I can give you a ton of links that Sivaji had the better opening.. The cinesouth report is incorrect.. and you know it.
    http://us.imdb.com/boxoffice/?region=uk&date=2007-06-15 is as official as it can get to prove that Sivaji was a big winner in UK.

    I agree that it was released with more theaters in Bangalore, but how did it fare.. It could have fared better.. but where is the proof?

    The only link that is supporting your argument is
    http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/04072008-1.shtml
    But what is the breakdown here.. where exactly did Dasavatharam beat Sivaji for the difference to be so big.. whereever we saw the difference (either in Dasavatharam’s favor or Sivaji’s favor) was marginal. So the difference cannot be that big.
    I explained that why those numbers are not trustworthy in
    http://indiablogs.searchindia.com/2008/06/24/is-dasavatharam-sinking/#comment-1896

    Trust me, I won’t relent to your pressure till I die or till searchindia bans me. I feel your frustration because Dasa involved so much effort for Kamal, but Sivaji is the box office boss still (in atleast 3 box offices that we have proof of).. so you got to accept that fact and move on.. or provide facts from other box offices where Davatharam won.

    I repeatedly asked whether you’d rank Dasavatharam in your top 10 favorite Kamal movies .. As you never answered it, it proves that you accept my theory.. if a Kamal fan doesn’t rank it in his own top 10, how would that movie be such a mad success as you claim.. I accept that people visited the theaters like never before.. but it wouldn’t have had as much repeat audiences as Sivaji did.. what were your favorite scenes in Dasavatharam that you wanted to see over and over again? How many times did you watch it?

    Sivaji has won handsomely in Chennai, Malaysia and UK.
    Chennai –
    Sivaji
    10.91 crores in 9 weeks Vs. Dasavatharam 10.68 in 10 weeks
    UK –
    Sivaji
    3.26+ crores Vs.Dasa’s 2 Crores
    Malaysia –
    Sivaji
    11+ crores Vs. Dasa’s 7+ Crores

    Provide your breakdowns from where Dasavatharam beat Sivaji.. don’t give stats on how much it was distributed for or how many theaters it got released in.. and don’t give that “overseas” collection again.. just give the breakdown..

  95. shuaib68   August 31, 2008 at 4:22 am

    Dear Search India,
    Can you please comment on the news item which is featured in a website called “indihot”(Link):

    http://indihot.com/movie-news/indian-awards-will-overtake-oscars-kamal-haasan.html

    Under following title
    “Indian awards will overtake Oscars – Kamal Hasan”

    I am expecting a nuclear attack from you!

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    We did a post on Kamal & Amitabh Bachchan on Oscars in June. Please see the link here.

  96. dilip   August 31, 2008 at 6:45 am

    You always say my sources are wrong. you say boxoffice ojo,behindwoods,cinesouth all are wrong. you will not accept anything how adamant you shud be then? when you give sources you dont give links.you have compared 10 weeks collection of dasa and sivaji using behindwoods as source.ok after how many weeks sivaji collected 14cr. give the source for that from behindwoods ie the link from behindwoods.
    it collected more than sivaji from malysia,uk and usa. thats y it s oveseas collection is 8mn$ more than sivaji.

  97. dilip   August 31, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    Only using boxoffice mojo you are saying collections of sivaji. when behindwoods or boxofficemojo says about collections of dasavatharam you are not accepting.ok say me after how many weeks sivaji collected 14 cr.give me the link from behindwoods lets see.you have given 10 weeks collection of sivaji.give 12 weeks or 13 weeks collection of sivaji.ok my question after how many weeks sivaji collected 14cr. give me the link dont paste.

  98. dilip   September 1, 2008 at 1:47 am

    So Take number of prints or opening or expectation or quality or collection by any means dasa is bigger than sivaji. this is the fact accept it. you have said subramanaipuram is big hit than dasa ,kuselan is big hit than dasa. you went to extent saying even muniyandi is bigger hit than dasa, are you mental go back to asylum. this is just like saying thullal(a unknown movie from some crap) is a big hit than Sivaji. only kamal and rajni are rivals .bharath or hero of subramaniapuram is not rival to kamal.

    This is a unique record created by dasa it ran 5o days even in uae and other gulf countries. first Tamil movie to run 50 days. so it is clear that dasa is much bigger hit than sivaji with a fraction of promotion and hype given compare to sivaji.

    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/aug-08-01/dasavatharam-05-08-08.html

    so even you accept that dasa is bigger hit than sivaji with goltis that is in andhra pradesh.but you are saying in chennai and tamilnadu sivaji is a bigger hit which is absolutrly ridiculous.in tamilnadu take madurai or trichy or coimbatore .dasa released in more theatre than sivjai and it also ran 50 days in more thetres in madurai,trichy and coimbatore.
    in madurai area(madurai district) alone it collected 12cr.including suburbs of madurai in madurai district it ran 50 days in 10 theatres it released (sivaji released only in 8 theatres).in madurai distrcit it is still runnig in 3 thetres which is phenomenal.sivaji ran 100 days in only onr thetre in madurai district.
    so your claims are worng .in trichy too dasa created a new record.

    sources:newspapers and wall posters.

  99. gandhiji   September 2, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    Dasavatharam has slipped out of the top 5 in Chennai for the first time.

    No. Weeks Completed: 11
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 63
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 35 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 3,64,237
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the twelfth weekend: Rs. 10.79 Crore

  100. gandhiji   September 2, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    hey dilip, if you see any text in a different color than black, it means that’s a link..

    I have changed the comparison matrix and added clickable links for Dasavatharam too.

    Sivaji has won handsomely in Chennai, Malaysia and UK.
    Chennai –

    Sivaji 10.91 crores in 9 weeks Vs. Dasavatharam 10.79 in 11 weeks
    UK –
    Sivaji
    3.26+ crores Vs. Dasa’s 2.18 Crores
    Malaysia –
    Sivaji
    11+ crores Vs. Dasa’s 7+ Crores

    If you want to give wallposters as proof.. here you go..
    Sivaji completed 100 days in 4 Madurai theaters
    http://rajinifans.com/boxoffice/images/sivaji_100_tn.jpg
    You are saying that Dasa is already down to 3 in 80 days..

    And stop attributing wrong statements to me. I never said that Kuselan and Muniyandi are bigger hits than Dasavatharam. Neither did I say Sivaji IS(i used “could have”) a hit in AP. Either you are a cheat or your reading comprehension in incomprehensibly bad.

  101. dilip   September 3, 2008 at 4:02 am

    what a comedy the links you were given are completely wrong and lie.i am just living near to jaya theatre in madurai it ran only 60 days in jaya theatre.in guru it ran 100 days.in natarj it ran 100 days.in kalaivano too it ran only 70 days.say this type of lies to anybody who is not living in madurai.ok by the i asked you to give 13th weekend results of sivaji from behindwoods.

  102. dilip   September 3, 2008 at 4:06 am

    gandhiji as far you say sivaji is bigger in cnai,malysia,uk.but das is bigger in andhra,kerela,rest of tamilnadu,karnataka and in usa and uae.

  103. dilip   September 3, 2008 at 4:15 am

    hi gandhiji.ha ha all the sources you have given are from boxoffice mojo and behindwoods.when the same websites said.there is 8mn$ difference between dasa and sivaji you have not accepted that

    moreover in uk boxoffice dasa collection you are given are for july18-20 and for sivaji you have given for august 28-30.how can you compare some 10th week and 5 th week collections.

    it is the same case for malaysia box office too.

  104. dilip   September 3, 2008 at 4:22 am

    it is clear in chennai sivaji has grossed more .in malaysia and uk .these are not reliable since it is from mojo.that too you have given different week collections for sivaji and dasa.

  105. gandhiji   September 3, 2008 at 10:33 am

    ok you want July 20 Malaysia Stats of Sivaji..
    here you go..
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/malaysia/?yr=2007&wk=29&p=.htm
    Still over 10 crores.. much bigger than Dasavatharam.

    UK Source is not boxofficemojo.. it is boxoffice hunguma..

    Provide numbers from andhra,kerala,rest of tamilnadu,karnataka and in usa and uae.. I’ll accept.. until then.. I’LL IGNORE YOU

    Sivaji has won handsomely in Chennai, Malaysia and UK.
    Chennai –
    Sivaji
    10.91 crores in 9 weeks Vs. Dasavatharam 10.68 in 10 weeks

    UK –
    Sivaji
    3.26+ crores Vs. Dasa’s 2.18 Crores

    Malaysia –
    Sivaji
    11+ crores Vs. Dasa’s 7+ Crores

    Remember Dilip.. I am as jobless as you.. I can write bold letters.

    SI, sorry for wasting your bandwidth 🙂

  106. dilip   September 3, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Gandhiji as you claim sivaji may be bigger hit in Chennai, Malaysia and uk. but dasa is bigger in Andhra, kerela, rest of Tamil nadu, Karnataka ,usa and uae.

    And then what a comedy the links you were given are completely wrong and lie. I am just living near to jaya theater in Madurai it ran only 60 days in jaya theatre. in guru it ran 100 days, in nataraj it ran 100 days, in kalaivani it ran only 70 days. say this type of lies to anybody who is not living in Madurai. in madurai it ran 100days only in 2 theater guru and nataraj. ok by the by I asked you to give 13th weekend results of sivaji from behind woods.

    hi Gandhiji. ha ha all the sources you have given are from box-office mojo and behind woods. when the same websites said there is 8mn$ difference between dasa and sivaji you have not accepted that. but it is clear that in Chennai sivaji has grossed more ,for Malaysia and uk .these are not reliable sources since it is from mojo. that too you have given different weekend collections for sivaji and dasa.

    For dasa collections in the link you have given it is not possible to go to next week to see how it fared in subsequent weeks.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    STOP posting the same comments again and again. You’ve already posted the above comment previously.

  107. dilip   September 4, 2008 at 6:16 am

    gandhiji boxoffice mojo is a right source.it has shown that after 3 weeks,dasa collected 14mn$.ya beause it released in more no of screens than sivaji in usa and gulf countries.dasa released with 190 prints in overseas.

    in cnai sivaji won the battle,in all other places dasa won.
    see the source to prove that dasa is bigger in uae and andhra.
    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/aug-08-01/dasavatharam-05-08-08.html
    http://www.andhrastudio.com/studio.php?id=5342
    http://sify.com/movies/telugu/fullstory.php?id=14695507&cid=2364

    see in usa too it was a bigger hit than sivaji.
    http://sify.com/movies/tamil/fullstory.php?id=14698751&cid=2363

    you have used behindwoods as a source to give collections of sivaji so it is reliable seee behindwoods said that dasa is a bigger hit than sivaji.

    http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news-1/jun-08-04/dasavatharam-sivaji-30-06-08.html

  108. gandhiji   September 4, 2008 at 10:18 am

    nope.. not good enough.. old and stale. give me individual collection proofs for Madurai, AP, UAE, USA and Kerala. Don’t worry, I’ll pray that Marmayogi will be good enough to compete with Sivaji.

  109. rajkumar   September 5, 2008 at 4:50 am

    i have never seen a ridiculous website like this. i dont know how are they saying dasavataram is a flop.it became second movie in history of indian cinema to gross 150cr.
    ok if at all this ridiculous site is raising only question and not declaring dasa as a flop.how can they write a statement like this”But news reports trickling in from India suggest that Dasavatharam is not doing well at the box office. If that is indeed the case, we would not be surprised ” without any proper source. hi mentals go back to asylum.

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    You write above: how can they write a statement like this”But news reports trickling in from India suggest that Dasavatharam is not doing well at the box office. If that is indeed the case, we would not be surprised ” without any proper source

    Are you a complete schmuck?

    Right below the sentence you quote from our post, we provided a source from Indiatimes (part of the Times of India group) along with a hyperlink to a video.

  110. gandhiji   September 8, 2008 at 11:06 am

    Dasavatharam (#9) spluttering on fumes.. This weekend collections has fallen behind Subramaniyapuram, which collected Rs. 1,67,555

    No. Weeks Completed: 12
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 30
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 30 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 1,60,581
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the thirteenth weekend: Rs. 10.85 Crore

    Looks like it will end up with 11 Crores in Chennai.

    Unfortunately I couldn’t find any other behindwoods chennai reports for Sivaji. I have mailed them to send me some info.. but I don’t have much hopes that I’ll get back anything.

    I have mailed Jayavel Murugan’s wife, for getting numbers for Dasavatharam.. their website is narmadha.com. They also have a phone number listed there.. but if I called them it would be bordering on harassment, i think.. 🙂 they are probably mourning the Kuselan losses now.

    Sivaji ran for 70 days in the bay area.. it was a record then .. not sure if Dasa beat it. According to an online source, Dasa only managed 5 weeks there.

    • srikumar1988   February 12, 2010 at 1:25 am

      u need brain to understand A class movies, but not for entertainers!!!!!!!!!!! and u know y chennai and malaysia’s collection is high ????? because the distribution of sivaji in these two places and japan is done by rajini and the distribution profit is his salary, dont compare anyone else’s movie with kamal hassan’s because he is farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr toooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ahead!!!!!!!!!!!!

      SearchIndia.com Responds:

      Now where did this baboon spring from?

  111. gandhiji   September 16, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    The reports of Dasa’s death have been greatly exaggerated (by me).

    No. Weeks Completed: 13
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 33
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 32 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 1,53,271
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the fourteenth weekend: Rs. 10.88 Crore

  112. gandhiji   September 22, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Dasa has finally matched Sivaji’s 9 week collections in Chennai.

    No. Weeks Completed: 14
    No. Shows in Chennai over this weekend: 23
    Average Theatre Occupancy over this weekend: 35 %
    Collection over this weekend in Chennai: Rs. 1,16,740
    Total collections in Chennai by end of the fifteenth weekend: Rs. 10.91 Crore

  113. gandhiji   September 29, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Dasavatharam disappeared from the top 10 after completing 100 days. Good feat. Kamal’s extraordinary (waste of) effort paid off.

  114. ghani   June 27, 2009 at 5:33 pm

    Dasa Box office collection

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479651/business

    SearchIndia.com Responds:

    More evidence that there’s a robust Indian market for garbage.

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