Incredible India 28: Hooray, Indians Can Now Bugger Each Other, Literally

For millennia, Indians have been buggering each other, figuratively.

But now they can do it, literally.

And legally too (this means homosexuality is no longer ground for being carted off to jail where you become the lover-boy for stronger male prisoners).

The New York Times has just put out a story that an Indian court has struck down Section 377 (dealing with the gay sex ban) as unconstitutional.

Here’s the excerpt from the NYT story:

In a landmark ruling Thursday that could usher in an era of greater freedom for gay men and lesbians in India, New Delhi’s highest court decriminalized homosexuality.

“Discrimination is antithesis of equality,”  the judges of the Delhi High Court wrote in a 105-page decision that is the first in India to directly guarantee rights for gay people. “It is the recognition of equality which will foster dignity of every individual,” the decision said.

Homosexuality has been illegal in India since 1861, when British rulers codified a law prohibiting “carnal intercourse against the order of nature.”

We’ve never understood this hullabaloo about homosexuality between consenting adults.

Why should it be anyone’s business in which hole his neighbor drills his nail or whether a child has two mommies?

Our philosophy in life is Screw and Let Screw, a modification of the old Live and Let Live.

Today, we can all proudly say – Mera Bharat Mahaan.

21 Responses to "Incredible India 28: Hooray, Indians Can Now Bugger Each Other, Literally"

  1. shadowfax_arbit   July 2, 2009 at 9:15 am

    Were there any cases of arrest under 377, even if it is by mutual consent? Responds:

    1. You write: Were there any cases of arrest under 377, even if it is by mutual consent?

    A question for Indians in India.

    2. Please read this Hardnews piece, which mentions harassment and rare arrests.

    Here’s an excerpt from the above Hardnews piece:

    Sumit Baudh, a senior programme associate at TARSHI (Talking About Sexual and Reproductive Health Issues), says: “Section 377 is a breach of the rights to privacy, human dignity and the right to life.” Though Section 377 has been used only sparingly to make arrests and conviction under the law is rare, it is often used by police and social bigots to intimidate, threaten and harass the gay community.” Ashu Seghal recounts how two neighbourhood policemen, aware of his gay identity, beat him with a bamboo stick and forced him to perform oral sex on them. After the incident, they advised him to “forget it as a bad dream” and not think of seeking justice as they could arrest him under Section 377.

  2. boopalanj   July 2, 2009 at 9:39 am

    Even popular film artists like M.R.Radha had reportedly said that he was a gay..! Responds:

    Oh, really? This is news to us.

    Personally, we think this gay thing has got something to do with the wiring in our body. Doubt we can control it.

  3. boopalanj   July 2, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Even popular film artists like M.R.Radha had reportedly said that he was a gay too..! [Probably a hetero!] Responds:

    Not hetero.

    You probably mean bisexual or AC/DC, as it’s referred to in slang. 😉

    In the U.S., we have gay bars and clubs. Gay culture is quite big in Philly.

  4. Aswin_Kini   July 2, 2009 at 10:11 am

    “Why should it be anyone’s business in which hole his neighbor drills his nail or whether a child has two mommies?”, 😀

    Seriously man, you have a great sense of humor and wit. .

    I have always believed that woman, only a woman, can make a man’s life whole. So I spent the latter part of my schooldays and my college days looking for a pretty girl 😉

    As for gays: If you don’t like women, you’re definitely missing something 😉

    The law of magnetism states “Opposite POLES attract each other” guess this stands true for humans too 😀 Responds:

    1. You write: So I spent the latter part of my schooldays and my college days looking for a pretty girl

    Hope you found the Vimala Raman of your life.

    If you haven’t yet, there’s always…. 😉

    2. You write: As for gays: If you don’t like women, you’re definitely missing something

    We don’t think so because gays have taken the old famous Apple ad Think Different seriously.

  5. Ænima Of The State   July 2, 2009 at 10:32 am

    I was thinking that metrosexual was the same as bisexual until today.. Yesterday, I learnt that Linsday Lohan could be a bisexual. Learning new stuff daily. Responds:

    That girl Lindsay is getting more bizarre by the day.
    Looks anorexic too.

    A few years back, we had a metrosexual festival in amchi Mumbai.

  6. StrYngLad74   July 2, 2009 at 10:43 am

    shadowfax said: “Were there any cases of arrest under 377, even if it is by mutual consent?”

    Not that I know of, considering implementation of the law in India is rather poor. However, policemen have blackmailed gays, AIDS workers who’re predominantly gay or transgender get beat up by the moral police goondas, HIV cases among gays remain unreported cos of this law, and things like that have happened.

    That said, judging by the way the religious leaders have vociferously voiced their dissent, I do expect some violent backlash on gays. However, with the Lieberhan report being handed over, focus is bound to shift to that side. Uma Bharati has been detained and there’s been a clash outside a Mysore mosque already with 3 people dead. Responds:

    17 years, 399 sittings, 48 extensions & Rs 8 crore for a report that should have come out in 3 months. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

    Maybe, it was the fear of more violence.

  7. StrYngLad74   July 2, 2009 at 11:39 am

    SI said: “Maybe, it was the fear of more violence.”

    Really? 😀

    I think regarding this issue, the Indian Govt. is damned if it does the right thing and damned if it doesn’t.

    Damned if it does the right thing: Punishing the guilty would mean putting an ex-PM, an ex-deputy PM, and key members of a major opposition party and its affiliates behind bars for breaking an existing penal code of religious vilification.

    Riots in the aftermath? Most positively!

    Damned if it doesn’t: If the Govt. decides to sweep this under carpet and put some scapegoats behind bars, then it angers every Muslim and minority group and forces them into action that stirs up the Kashmir issue even more.

    Riots in the aftermath? Most positively! Responds:

    Let’s see what’s in the report. The contents should start leaking out soon.

  8. StrYngLad74   July 2, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    SI Said:”Let’s see what’s in the report”

    The declassified version is going to be full of black stripes…guaranteed 🙂

  9. StrYngLad74   July 2, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Regardless of whether a law existed or not, gay couples have been marrying. According to Ashok Row Kavi, a prominent gay-rights activist, a same-sex marriage occurs every week.

    Read a very touching article about Indian gays and lesbians and their parents accepting them and performing marriage according to traditional Hindu rites.

    Link: Responds:

    Wonder what role the Hindu caste, gothra, rashi, nakshatram et al would play in a gay marriage. 😉

    To all the obscenely curious folks that have always wondered how the elephants do it, try picturizing two hulking Sardars, turbans, big twirling mustaches and all after a hard day in the fields.

    Balle Balleee Balleeeeeyy!

  10. Aswin_Kini   July 2, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Sorry to go off topic. I was wondering why the name Vimala Raman sounded familiar. It just happened that I watched a recent Telugu movie called EVARAINA EPUDAINA (Anyone, Anytime). It was a nice masala movie with a young upcoming hero VARUN SANDHESH in the lead. I couldn’t help wondering how pretty this heroine was. And when I checked Wikipedia, I find that this pretty lass is already 29 (Atleast as per WIKIPEDIA) and the HERO is yet to complete 20. Anyways, I guess her pretty face and penchant to act naturally covers up her age.

    I bet she is one of the prettiest actresses around, what say SI? Responds:

    1. You write: I bet she is one of the prettiest actresses around, what say SI?

    Yes. Yes. Yes.

    BTW, we have a feeling that this ‘senior citizen of Tamil movies’ a.k.a. Vimala Raman is related to an old ‘Raman’ friend of ours in Sydney. One of these days, we are going to call him and find out.

    2. Varun Sandesh Jeedigunta is from Bridgewater, NJ, about 150 miles from here and the site of a well known Balaji Temple.

    Vimala Raman, Varun Sandesh, Upen Patel, …looks like the number of NRIs is increasing in the various woods.

  11. StrYngLad74   July 2, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Here’s a debate on NDTV for whomever is interested. It’s between gay-activists and a couple of religious nut-jobs, aka PCS’s or Poster Boys for Creationist Stupidity Responds:

    Not able to play video in Firefox. Will try in IE later.

  12. Aswin_Kini   July 2, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    As long as you folks keep importing good looking girls/babes, we don’t mind. Keep em coming! Long live US, Long Live Australia, long live the young hearts of India 😉 Responds:

    Exporting, you mean?

    Viva la India.

  13. gnair91   July 2, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    When was the last time you guys were here,in India? where did you go? Responds:

    You write: When was the last time you guys were here,in India?

    Our ship sailed out of India in the pre-Internet, pre-cell phone, pre-multiplex, pre-glitzy mall era. Since then we’ve remained anchored here.

    Yes, we do hear that India is quite a different place these days.

  14. kenan   July 2, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    Ha! Responds:

    Taking the next flight to India now that Section 377 is history? 😉

  15. kenan   July 2, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    ok, enough. Its not even funny anymore.
    Besides, my heart belongs to MSD who is in West Indies right now. Responds:

    You write: my heart belongs to MSD who is in West Indies right now.

    Nane Nana, Yaro Thana.

    Hope you understand enough Tamil to make out the lines in the above song.

  16. Dr.UnkHaf D. Aktar   July 2, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Homosexuals are not a very small minority as some of us want to believe.

    I think it was at Yale’s in the 70s that the famous phrase “One in four, maybe more” was coined.
    There is another theory that sexual orientation is an artificial construct and there is infact a degree of homosexuality even in heterosexuals and vice versa.
    And to those crack-pot homophobes, all I can say is what Freud told them “ALL homophobes are closet gays”. Responds:

    We think people can exhibit different sexual orientation at different times and homosexual behavior can also be a response to external stimuli.

    That’s our theory…oh, well, make that a hypothesis.

  17. kenan   July 2, 2009 at 10:56 pm Responds:


  18. abdulrbadr   July 4, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    1. JUSTIFICATION of Homosexuality is with a yard-stick of freedom and consent & compulsion of some genetic predisposition. If it is applied, it will hold true ironically for OPIUM ADDICTS and KLEPTOMANIAC as well. I agree all three of them should be kept in REFORMATORIES, NOT in open normal healthy society.
    2. MARITAL-DOUBTS: When a husband or a wife starts losing interest in spouse due to this glorification of homos, not only chaos & destruction of household peace will occur, HUMAN RACE may face extinction and only those nations (e.g. strict Muslim) will flourish who ban it.
    3. Even most ANIMALS (except a few e.g. pigs) do not practice it as it is un-physiological. So homos are worse than dogs & pigs. Besides, homos are coward & result in a coward nation in the offing.
    4. Whereas it may be documented in western medical books as normal but in INDIAN SOCIETY 99% respect religious values and regard it abnormal. It is wrong to believe that even 10% population accepts it as routine normal behavior. Instead 99.9% in India abhorrently regard it as an aberration largely punishable when it is not reform-able.
    5. The history might have had some examples but these are never mentioned as examples of culture but of anticulture just as Hitler’s behavior and holocaust were ANTICULTURE AND NOT CULTURE.
    6. UNHEALTHY: Who says it has no relations with VD, HIV? First few cases of HIV were among Homos. God knows how many hitherto unknown viral infective diseases are in store for homos who will die their own death if courts are so encouraging and glorifying for them.
    7. It is surprising to see that same TV CHANNELS WHO ARE PUSHING IT to the audience in the name of human rights are violating the rights of society that want freedom to maintain the morality in generations to come. You will see such channels will eventually lose their TRP in India.
    8. There seems to be well orchestrated JEALOUS CONSPIRACY against Indian nation by our western enemies using courts & TV channels to destroy our NATIONAL CULTURAL STRENGTH.
    10. OTHER ISSUES: WATER, ELECTRICITY, high cost of living are solved? That All start debating aberrations of behavior. Let them die their own death.
    • From-Dr. A. R. Badr, MBBS MS FMAS, Noor hospital, QADIAN 143516 PUNJAB, email: Responds:

    You sound like a nut case.

  19. Asha Tampa   July 5, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Was wondering why u dint cover this 🙂
    Anyways – Way to go, India! Hehe 😀 Responds:

    We are very happy with the Court decision.

  20. StrYngLad74   July 8, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    More stupidity in the form of logical fallacies from a new PCS, named “Kakkar” in a Gay issues debate. Responds:

    Watched 25.48 min of the 45.03-min video. Interesting.

    Yes, saw Kakkar’s reference to bestiality et al.

    Kakkar represents a certain generation and a mindset (police, bureaucratic) that’s not comfortable with homosexuality being out in the open. He did mention that homosexual behavior was not new in contemporary India and also said that he was unaware of any cases registered against homosexuals. Basically the point he seemed to be making was that homosexuality was being tolerated as long as it’s covert and certainly not punished. Not unlike like the U.S. military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy on gays.

    But now with the High Court ruling bringing the issue into the open, it’s a different ball-game (or should it be balls-game?).

    Will try and watch the entire video.

    Nidhi (anchor) = hot!

  21. StrYngLad74   July 8, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    “Yes, saw Kakkar’s reference to bestiality et al.”

    Bestiality is not consensual sex between two ADULT HUMANS. When will these morons learn, I’ll never know. Plus, using bestiality and other issues as an argument against homosexuality is a strawman fallacy.

    “Will try and watch the entire video.”

    The second half is about the Babri Masjid case, where the BJP spokesperson starts spouting rubbish. Must watch! 😀

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